And you are an extreme outlier I think that need to have true skill based matchmaking, it can’t be fun to go into trials with your other top 0.2% -2.5% elo players 100 and something flawless players. I would imagine not many games bring anyone close to your skill, or is that what you look for?

[quote]And you are an extreme outlier I think that need to have true skill based matchmaking, it can’t be fun to go into trials with your other top 0.2% -2.5% elo players 100 and something flawless players. I would imagine not many games bring anyone close to your skill, or is that what you look for?[/quote] No we don't, your [u]incompetence[/u] doesn't entitle you to a segregated pvp experience, do you understand that? Being bad at raids doesn't give you easier raids, being bad at pvp doesn't give you easier pvp. Play EVERYONE and ANYONE like we ALL do or stick to patrol

I don’t want or need a segregated experience, read above, don’t make stuff up. And in a raid we face the same opponent, raids are easy. What I’m saying is the system they are using is not working, it is not effective at placing teams evenly or close to it.

[quote]I don’t want or need a segregated experience, read above, don’t make stuff up.[/quote]Anyone asking for sbmm wants both [quote]And in a raid we face the same opponent, raids are easy.[/quote] And in pvp the majority of the time we face average players. [quote]What I’m saying is the system they are using is not working, it is not effective at placing teams evenly or close to it.[/quote] It is working and teams shouldn't place things evenly, if you want a competitive playlist comp is that way ->

Well you are by far the minority when it comes to people who like the matchmaking as is, but it is set to help you so why wouldn’t you.

[quote]Well you are by far the minority when it comes to people who like the matchmaking as is[/quote] Completely false - the drastically low player numbers under sbmm clearly show cbmm is preferred by the majority - sbmm is only desired by the bottom tier of the playerbase [quote]but it is set to help you so why wouldn’t you.[/quote] It isn't "set" to "help" anyone

You must be on the bungie team, cause you really don’t make much sense to me

[quote]You must be on the bungie team, cause you really don’t make much sense to me[/quote] It's really clear what I wrote, but I guess if you can't figure out this easy to play game how can I expect you to figure out basic English

You try to sound smart, then you sound like a preschooler, then you try to sound smart, your just a poor little kid, your good at destiny, yeah!!!!!!! Good job, but your not too bright, probably a lonely kid, so enjoy being good at a video game, in ten years tell me what use it is?

[quote]You try to sound smart, then you sound like a preschooler, then you try to sound smart, your just a poor little kid, your good at destiny, yeah!!!!!!! Good job, but your not too bright, probably a lonely kid[/quote] Compared to you I'm Einstein buddy, look what you even wrote here, and I quote "You try to sound smart, then you sound like a preschooler, then you try to sound smart, your just a poor little kid" You repeat "you try to sound smart" twice which makes for a comical argument and don't even know the difference between you're and your, enough said [quote]so enjoy being good at a video game, in ten years tell me what use it is?[/quote] Wait what do you get out of being bad at a video game? Tell me what good you'll have from being bad in 10 years?

That’s easy, my attention is placed in more important areas, family , education, job, personal goals. Video games are an outlet, an entertainment not a perversion. And calling others bad is just plain insecurity. Believe me, where it matters; I am definitely not “playing patrol”. I’m done with this odd debate with you, your not able to see that the masses would agree, and your game experience is the minority. I deeply believe that if there was a bell curve that asked enjoyment without matchmaking , most would be right with me in the middle saying this sucks, you on the other hand (having looked at your stats and game history, and seeing you only run stacked) would be an outlier, way to the side that thinks all is great. Yes in all surveys, you will find outliers. You are an outlier. Enjoy, eventually the masses move on, and just like d1 crucible, only a few still play

[quote]That’s easy, my attention is placed in more important areas, family , education, job, personal goals. Video games are an outlet, an entertainment not a perversion. And calling others bad is just plain insecurity. Believe me, where it matters; I am definitely not “playing patrol”. I’m done with this odd debate with you, your not able to see that the masses would agree, and your game experience is the minority. I deeply believe that if there was a bell curve that asked enjoyment without matchmaking , most would be right with me in the middle saying this sucks, you on the other hand (having looked at your stats and game history, and seeing you only run stacked) would be an outlier, way to the side that thinks all is great. Yes in all surveys, you will find outliers. You are an outlier. Enjoy, eventually the masses move on, and just like d1 crucible, only a few still play[/quote] 1. It's your ASSUMPTION that one can't both be focused in more important areas AND be good at video games 2. Your premise that you are any part of the majority is completely wrong - wo wrong in fact that all 3 times the MM you desire was added to the game our player population crashed so hard bungie had to make panic changes. EVERY SINGLE TIME

The people who didn’t enjoy the more balanced matchmaking that I again ask for something in that line (was much better), were the people like you, the streamers because it was hard to make content when they couldn’t find unbalanced lobbies that made them look even better than they are. I won’t reply to you again, so whatever the comment, take care

[quote]The people who didn’t enjoy the more balanced matchmaking that I again ask for something in that line (was much better), were the people like you, the streamers because it was hard to make content when they couldn’t find unbalanced lobbies that made them look even better than they are. I won’t reply to you again, so whatever the comment, take care[/quote] You're comment made no sense and is totally false. Only bottom tier playerslike yourself ask for the matchmaking that made the game die each time it was attempted back, if you aren't good enough to play vs EVERYONE stick to patrol

you are wrong. This has nothing to with incompetence. Unlike Raids, PvP does not have a set scale of difficulty and each match's difficulty is determined by your team's and other team's skill level which is essentially what the OP is asking for. my suggestion is stick to patrols if you do not even know what PvP is