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Comparing similar hive minds may help us understand the Vex

I'm a big warhammer 40k fan, as well as a Destiny lore nut, so naturally both interests would inevitably overlap While spending one night thinking about scorn and scorn accessories, I realized that we may have something to learn from comparing the iconic Tyranids of 40k to the Vex of Destiny. Allow me to explain The Tyranids are a ravenous hive network intelligence of insect like biomorphs hell bent on consuming all organic matter in the galaxy. Shockingly, the way the Tyranids work is almost, if not, identical to the Vex and their network intelligence Every basic tryanid unit has a dim connection to the network, alone this connection is hardly enough to guide them but when exposed to a synaptic leader their connection is boosted and tied to their designated synapse. From there the leader will guide lesser Tyranids towards an assigned objective that they were specifically designed to complete This perfectly mirrors the Vex, with basic vex troops having a connection to the network that gets drastically boosted upon the introduction of a vex mind. Causing the vex to more cohesively move towards a specific goal Upon the elimination of a synaptic leader or a Vex mind, the remaining subordinates will default to basic functions such as self preservation and territorial defense. It's why when we kill a Vex mind; the resulting terraforming projects grind to a stand still, as the lesser Vex units no longer have a strong enough connection to the greater Network to tell them what to do Now here's the interesting part, and where I think we could stand to learn somthing regarding the vex It is heavily implied that the tryanid hive mind is in fact a greater entity guiding the Tyranids across the galaxy, this entity however is entirely made out of the tryanid's collective consciousness. A non physical being that both guides and is sustained by the Hive fleets, only existing within the tryanid's unified mind Perhaps the same can be said for the prime mind? The source of the vex may in fact be the cumulative thoughts of the Vex themselves and only exists within the vex network as a non physical entity spanning quintillions of vex frames. Meaning that the only way to harm it is by continuing to eliminate more and more important vex minds. Like disabling a massive brain one neuron at a time What do you think?
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  • 由ChronoRabbitN7編輯: 5/22/2022 11:14:22 PM
    The problem with Hive minds in Scifi, is that that are always projected to have an "ultimate" leader making moves behind the scene. Like a Queen. But that isn't what happens with actual Hive Mind behavior. All drones, soldiers and even "queens" have their respective roles and are important in their own ways, but none are above each other in heiarchy. Putting limits on such things is a flaw of humanity, projecting their own society on nature.

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  • I don't think the vex are technically a hive mind. Based on things said in game and lore I'd say it's more likely they are a consensus like the Geth from Mass Effect. The have factions as seen with the Sol faction in the black garden, and I don't believe a proper hive mind would allow for splinter groups. As a consensus on the other hand, all units (programs) would share data and would build a conclusion based off the many perspectives. As a collective, groups could form and splitter off with different ideals. I think this also makes sense since the vex seem to convert other life into vex mind fluid, so you would get programs with memories and knowledge that one belonged to a living creature. The consensus would also explain friendly harpies, or vex learning to respect Saint 14, or why they never invaded earth.

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    • I’ve been thinking about it off and on. We know/think there is something at the heart of their network, it was hinted at in D1 that when the Taken reached this point, it’d allow them to take all the Vex at once. What was the genesis of the Vex? The pattern form that escaped the Garden. Hasn’t it been said that to the Vex everything must fit the pattern? What can’t must be cut away? However, BL introduced simulated personalities being used by the Vex. This opens the door to a personality assuming control. The Vex have acknowledged that using non Vex entities can progress their goal. They’d be foolish enough to do it, thinking they’d keep the reins in the end. So there could be either the OG pattern or a Persia pity they’ve chosen to be their leader.

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