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原先發佈於: Defense for Variks
10/8/2020 7:52:56 PM
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Petra is dealing with chaos now. Her people and their home are cursed and under siege. Her queen was missing for quite some time prior. I understand you like Variks as a character, but understand we all have favorites. Mine is her. So rather than pull a move any American politician would try, you should have stuck with your facts. Don't throw another person under the bus to redirect some blame. Of course Variks made a mistake with good intentions, but I'd rather House Judgement have him than no one at all. He was level headed, and he was fairly loyal in the past. Problem is, he will have to prove himself all over again. You can't argue against that. Petra screwed up too, by allowing the monster to grow. But he set it free. And he is also a member of a race that came from seemingly nowhere to wipe our civilization out. Of course they're going to call him names. Fallen were never known to humans for being kind and loyal friends until now. Centuries of genocide and atrocities aren't handwaved after a few years of loyal service, even if he had no hand in it. Most people don't know anything about his "lore" or stories. They didn't know him enough to be kind. All in all, I don't hate him. I don't think he is evil. He made a hard choice when nothing seemed like it would go well. He hoped for the prison riot to go better, I have no doubt. Cayde should have waited and had backup. But, Variks owes an apology for helping set it all in motion. As does Petra. After that, I welcome him home as a friend and ally. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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  • I am literally an awoken. Trust me I don’t like what’s happening. And I never said you guys can’t have favorites. I said you can literally dislike Variks. My job here was to defend and point out the facts. I did stick with my facts. What are you on about? I never said Petra has sole responsibility on her shoulders. I said she played a part in this. I’m pointing it out because everyone throws [i]Variks[/i] under the bus. So allow me to remind you who else has blame, okay? Okay. And yes I will argue against him proving himself all over again. What a damned slap in the face to everything he’s done. “Of course they’re going to call him names” is also a completely asinine excuse. Once he had proved himself that sh*t should have [b]stopped[/b]. And thanks for resting genocide on Variks’s shoulders I’m sure he appreciates that. I can’t believe you’re arguing that people have a right to treat him this way because they “don’t know enough about him”. Literally what kind of excuse is that. Thanks for at least not wishing he was dead. I won’t disagree with him apologizing. I’m sure he will.

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  • I didn't excuse anything. I explained why it happens. You're being a bit fanatical by trying to say I put the genocide on his shoulders. It's not on him, nor did I say that. His race did that. And he is one of them, so that distrust will fall to him too, whether he deserves it or not. It's an issue in the world today, I'm sure centuries from now it still will be. Deal with it like he did and ignore the lies. People aren't always nice and that's a battle you can't win. Variks was always nice though. But mentioning Petra serves no other purpose than to try to relieve Varik's blame. If anyone thinks Petra didn't make any mistakes, they're ignorant. I'm not sure what her failings have to do with proving he's not bad, other than deflecting focus from him. That's all I'm saying. Did they have a good rapport? That's where she could help your case. It's like saying many people have killed so that murderer in court isn't bad. Doesn't have relevance. Like I said, I welcome him back myself. Mistakes are how we learn and grow. I mean, in a way he did finally help Uldren. It cost the awoken a lot and Cayde died, but he didn't want that, I'm sure. He can't make anything better in a ditch or a cell. At Mithrax's side though, I bet he can.

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  • Actually, I’ve been dealing with it like he did for a long time now. Seeing the uproar recently though, I felt I had to speak up one last time. Also I think you’re forgetting he didn’t deal with it that well. It made him feel like sh*t. At the end of the day I don’t care about who’s nice or not. That’s not the battle I’m trying to win. I’m trying to educate the people who lie about him. When you love someone, it bothers you to see people saying untrue things about them and threatening to murder them. Also no, the point of bringing Petra into it was because people blamed Variks solely. That isn’t fair when someone else was clearly part of the issue. You’re exactly right, they’re ignorant. Those are the people I’m bringing it up for. Obviously.

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  • At least she was there to try to help fix it. Obviously, Variks had left long before he could have known the extent of the problem. I'm not sure what kept him away, but we will see soon enough I bet. And I doubt we'll be able to say we'd have done different. I think he just had a need to secure the future of the Eliksni, and leave the problems to us.

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