[quote]Ok, I'm just gonna say it HELP US BUNGIE. This comes from a hardcore Hunter fan, but I've used every class and have come up with similar issues. Thank you for discipline, and for exotics that improve our grenades. No PLEASE buff grenades in the crucible. Especially Hunter grenades (which also need a boost in PvE). Hunter void grenades do squat in crucible. Meanwhile, Titans are running around with suppressant and magnetic grenades and warlocks with their scatter and (maybe) axion bolts. DO SOMETHING. The only Hunter grenades that work on guardians are the tripmine (which doesn't have enough damage spread), possible swarm or skip. In PvE, the only grenade good for anything beyond thrall and warbeasts is arc bolt. BUNGIE, HELP OUR GRENADES![/quote] Seriously? Skip grenades with shinobu's vow is out of control right now.

Hunters have some very good grenades. In addition to the ones you said.. vortex, incendiary, arcbolts, and spike grenades are very strong in PvP. Voidwall is still good but not exactly strong by itself. Really the only weak grenade on hunters is the flux, but for good reason, stickies were grossly OP on every class in D1. Spike grenades have a slight learning curve but once you learn to hit walls right you can finish off people behind cover easily. I can't speak on PvE strength. I'd agree that titans have many strong grenades but I wouldn't say that Voidwalker grenades are powerful at all. Really the best one is Vortex and the hunters have that too. Scatters only work on direct hits and axions... well axions are quite depressing right now lol. Any hunter dodge will kill their tracking, sprinting in one direction will outpace them in a second or two, even just being close to cover will cause them to bounce harmlessly into it and fizzle out. Lastly, grenade-based hunter exotics are [i]very[/i] good. Shinobu's Vow by itself is grossly good. Titans have Ashen Wake, but they still must land a direct hit. Warlocks don't really have an exotic that creates an insane throwable grenade.