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由MEGANAUTe編輯：
2/29/2020 4:29:03 AM
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Forbes guy , NO, we’re not wrong! “Luke Smith Is Right About Retiring Old 'Destiny 2' Weapons, And You Are Wrong”
Going to call this person FG.
Probably the 2nd thing that FG and I disagree on. I’ve appreciated his voice on a lot but I don’t think he’s addressed huge concerns for the community. This is in regards to Legendaries having an expiration date.
FG recently said this:
“ Luke Smith Is Right About Retiring Old 'Destiny 2' Weapons, And You Are Wrong”
I’ll be updating this regularly. I greatly believe that giving legendaries an expiration date is 100% backwards thinking. Our time grinding weapons should be respected. Also, FG, telling people they’re wrong is not conducive. Have a conversation.
Here’s the link to his article:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/02/28/luke-smith-is-right-about-retiring-old-destiny-2-weapons-and-you-are-wrong/#39a3e7f359f3
Please comment here if you agree and why you might disagree with this
#keeplegendariesgreat
Ps. Excuse my commas. Will maybe fix later? Cheers
Just found this awesome statement from FG. Contradiction?
“The longer I play Destiny, the more I realize that as new players come in, they’re often not terribly concerned with the newest content, they often want to go back and get stuff that many players have already. That’s true of many pinnacle weapons, which you can get at any time, no matter when you join, and it’s true of what might be the hardest pinnacle weapon to get of them all, Not Forgotten, the hand cannon.”
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2 回覆I actually don't mind what's going to happen, if the weapons are being replaced by equal or better weapons. I remember running black hammer, fatebringer, Gallajorn all of season one. I was pissed when they retired them, but then realized how easy everything was. I am all for feeling powerful, but melting bosses in 2 seconds actually got pretty boring. Now bungie needs to make boss fights more entertaining, every boss now is a bullet sponge.
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I agreed with the Forbes guy. You always outgrow weapons in an rpg for newer loot. The system we have now makes us as players lazy and allows guns to get lost because we can’t let go of our older weapons. I guarantee you most players don’t use 80% of what’s in their vault. We collect it thinking “someday” but then go back to using the same old Bygones. Something else I think people forget that “Forbes guy” said is that just like d1 when this practice was used you still get to use those weapons in crucible, strikes, and other activities. It’s really the newer stuff where the guns aren’t as effective. That’s as it should be. Weapons don’t develop the same appreciation as they did in d1 because players aren’t trying new things. I think it’s good we’re being pushed to move on as t will allow other weapons to shine. It’s not always a bad thing for a great weapon to be remembered rather than still played with.
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3 回覆We've subconsciously already retired old weapons. Who here actually uses the weapons from vanilla D2 with static rolls? No one that I know of. We all grind for weapons we want with random god rolls. Am I happy about it being spelled out for me? Not really. I have weapons like the Purpose sitting in my vault that I never thought would have been vaulted. It happens every couple of seasons.
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9 回覆I can’t take people seriously when I see a post with the first letter of word capitalized.
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Id like to know how you guys plan to fix this game, because as it stands now. The loot environment is headed for mediocrity. The hole bungie dug themselves into, wont fix itself. Furthermore D2 can not stay the course and bungie simply puts out another set of weapons, because how many times can they put out a 150 HC and make it exciting, or get players to use new stuff if the pulse you have with 500,000 kills on it is still viable.
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1 回覆Agreed. Im not doing this AGAIN. Bungie has wasted my time again and again with these changes and Im done with it.
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I can see both sides of the argument. On one and we grind it our ass off for this stuff. On the other hand if they are just going to nerf everything to crap or leave it all behind anyways, fine. But we'd better get new shit and not reskins from D1 or d2. Some of you are making the BL2 and 3 argument, but this isn't borderlands. This is bungies destiny2. Massive difference. GB knows exactly what players want, what they want and how to do it in a way that satisfies everyone. They don't take huge risks not knowing if it will pay off. Plus I don't consider BL to be a live service game. It's just a game with online multiplayer capabilities. More freedom to fix, balance, or all whatever. Bungie looks to have leadership that knows what they want to do but doesn't fully think about the outcome or repercussions. How will the community take it? What sort of impact will these changes have on the overalls game? How much testing should we do internally? Etc. Feedback is almost pointless because by the time they see feedback about [i]insert here[/i], they are already working on something else for the next season which was possibly inspired by [i]insert here[/i]... players where complaining about [i]insert here[/i] and you're doing what with it?
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2 回覆[quote]Going to call this person FG. Probably the 2nd thing that FG and I disagree on. I’ve appreciated his voice on a lot but I don’t think he’s addressed huge concerns for the community. This is in regards to Legendaries having an expiration date. FG recently said this: “ Luke Smith Is Right About Retiring Old 'Destiny 2' Weapons, And You Are Wrong” I’ll be updating this regularly. I greatly believe that giving legendaries an expiration date is 100% backwards thinking. Our time grinding weapons should be respected. Also, FG, telling people they’re wrong is not conducive. Have a conversation. Here’s the link to his article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/02/28/luke-smith-is-right-about-retiring-old-destiny-2-weapons-and-you-are-wrong/#39a3e7f359f3 Please comment here if you agree and why you might disagree with this #keeplegendariesgreat Ps. Excuse my commas. Will maybe fix later? Cheers Just found this awesome statement from FG. Contradiction? “The longer I play Destiny, the more I realize that as new players come in, they’re often not terribly concerned with the newest content, they often want to go back and get stuff that many players have already. That’s true of many pinnacle weapons, which you can get at any time, no matter when you join, and it’s true of what might be the hardest pinnacle weapon to get of them all, Not Forgotten, the hand cannon.”[/quote] Pretty sure this guy went ape shit back in D1 when they did this the last two times in D1.
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1 回覆由jefedemuchanina編輯： 2/29/2020 7:54:53 PMYeah he flip flops on everything and on Twitter several people pointed out how beyond dumb it was him thinking this was a good idea. He's a self admitted fanboy so yeah no one gives a shit
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People are always going to have different opinions. FG has been pretty good about most stuff, but most of us would disagree I think. I grinded out my mountaintop and I should be able to use it if I want. I don't want to do a bunch of work to re-earn the same or similar weapon. I don't really care about 99% of the loot in this game, but I like what I like. If Bungie thinks that re-grinding out the same weapons each season is going to save the game they are wrong. If the future seasons are light on content, disposable weapons are not a positive, they are a negative. I'm sure if they setup automated testing, balancing should become very easy, but maybe the only thing they can come up with is re-hashing the same items each season. Of course I'm not trying to play the game for a 2nd job. I'm here to shoot stuff, hang with friends and get lost in a power fantasy. Not a meh fantsy.
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That guy is an idiot anyway But seriously. It is a step in the wrong direction. Considering how we have less randomly rolled weapons than d1 did at this point in time and the fact that we have no refreshes and locked elements on weapons.
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2 回覆Normally that guy is way off the work with his jibberish nonsense, but he's right this time. The next few seasons look set to be beauties 👌
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2 回覆Dude just leave this game, it isnt worth the effort anymore. If Bungie isnt willing to make an effort of equal exchange then show them the same amount they give us.
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Nah, hes right. Cheesy -blam!-wads havent pulled your dust rocks out your asshole since Forsaken launched and its tiresome. And for pve, literally get over it, pve is -blam!- easy in this game and you could run most activities with 3 sidearms and your eyes closed
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I'm mixed on expiring legendaries, on one hand it's a good way to change the metas each year without nerfs and is the same system they had in D1. On the other hand it also means that my hard earned legendaries will become pointless every so often. Also looking at bungie's past record for the last few seasons, it means we will only 12 new guns that can achieve max light.
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2 回覆由Shirtless_Captain_Kirk編輯： 2/29/2020 5:07:36 AM
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