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由Lost Sols編輯：
12/21/2019 5:51:13 PM
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It's an argument that's always going to get bullshit responses from Hunter and Titan mains. You're absolutely correct though.
Also with Titans, 2 Solar Subclasses have OHK abilities because the Throwing hammers can OHK now and 2 Arc Subclasses have OHK abilities because Ballistic Slam also is an OHK.
So Titans have OHK abilities on 5 of 9 Subclasses.
Hunters have the OHK Throwing Knife and while not OHK, Arc Hunters have Tempest Strike on one subclass that is a very good offensive ability.
Hunters also have Dodge which is easily the best class ability in the game between Dodge, Barricade and Rift which is by far the worst.
So yeah, players can argue against your post all they want, but it doesn't change that you are 100% correct.
Warlocks have HHS.
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由Wraith編輯： 12/21/2019 3:44:57 PMAll three subclass for hunters OHK throwing knife??? Have you ever even played a hunter? Because you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s on one subclass and one subclass alone. Bottom tree the worst of the three. Nice try though. Also if you think dodge is the best class ability I have news for you the fastest cool down in 9 seconds with max mobility, warlocks get double dodge on a 5 second cool down... and they still get their rift as well. That’s way better than a hunter being able to dodge every 25 seconds( regular cool down) 🤦♂️
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Fixed, I thought thought all solar hunters had the throwing knife and buff. As for Dodge, yes it's the best class ability out of Dodge/barricade/rift and it's not even close. The Warlock ability you're referencing isn't their 3rd cool down ability and rift is garbage in PvP. Dodge has easily the most utility with the ability to dodge over ammo to pick up+instantly load, reload, grant invisibility, recharge melee and overall aid movement.
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Again you’re showing how little you know about the hunter class. It reloads or recharges your melee only when close and personal with the opposing player. And invisibility is trash you can hear exactly where they are when you go invisible and still see them and it’s only on the worst subclass in the game for supers 🤦♂️
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[quote]It reloads or recharges your melee only when close and personal with the opposing player.[/quote] I agree with most of what you've said and sols doesnt know much about hunter outside nightstalker but in typical fashion talks like he does but you should note that the reload dodge will always reload weapons, only the melee regen requires you to be close to an enemy
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由Lost Sols編輯： 12/22/2019 12:54:34 AMI played a Nightstalker all of year 2 and leveled 3 hunters to cap year 1. If you don't understand how incredible melee/dodge/melee can be if you know what you're doing, or how good invisibility can be if you again, know how to use it effectively and not run directly at people thinking they won't see you, or how many times the reload function is the difference in winning vs losing gun fight, particularly vs multiple opponents, then maybe you don't understand how to play a Hunter.
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I never played solar because I've never liked Golden Gun and Blade Barrage is cheesy AF. Also if you regularly die to HHS, that's on you. I maybe get killed by it once or twice in a few days worth of games. It's the most overly complained about ability in the game when shoulder charge is the single biggest cheese ability in the game.
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[quote]Again you’re showing how little you know about the hunter class. It reloads or recharges your melee only when close and personal with the opposing player. And invisibility is trash you can hear exactly where they are when you go invisible and still see them and it’s only on the worst subclass in the game for supers 🤦♂️[/quote] It shuts down ALL supers in one shot and lining up head shots is easier when off radar and head is less visible. You are talking crap again.
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[quote]So that’s the only thing you disagree with? Lol whatever man you’re clueless.[/quote] Proven - I got my not forgotten abusing this set up. Knuckle head shotgun / sniper and 2 x paragon 3 x intellect mods + invis. Void bow shuts down all supers in one hit.
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[quote]Yeah I’m suuuure you did but no one can check any of your history so even if you do have nf (probably don’t) you probably cheated to get it.[/quote] Not forgotten - https://xboxclips.com/ill%20skillz%201881/screenshots/33660f36-423b-4866-a559-99a98fe2e32e Some success / funny failures on route - Funny throwing knife (through wall / ricochet one hit head kill (?) through wall (?) https://xboxclips.com/ill%20skillz%201881/291c18ff-3349-49d0-b62e-b8c40f4b4fbb/embed 1 vs 3 (I lost 2-4 after this round) https://xboxclips.com/ill%20skillz%201881/e9c6af97-c9f8-4060-b4e0-5ccccc5b9b6e/embed I took two rounds after my team both quit. But lose to very game opponents all utilizing bows to a standard I can’t! Another failure against some red bar super stars. Full on erentil and shotgun blasts failing to wipe (again) https://xboxclips.com/ill%20skillz%201881/57d576ce-917e-420f-b01f-4bc4a6c1501f/embed So yeah it’s done - it’s time stamped. It won’t stop one thing. You acting a total tool.
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[quote]I’m not going to watch any of your stupid clips to inflate your viewers lol how pathetic of you. Also shooting through walls or throwing knifes throw walls is your internet not the game.[/quote] Bye troll. F-Ck off the post now.
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[quote]All three subclass for hunters OHK throwing knife??? Have you ever even played a hunter? Because you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s on one subclass and one subclass alone. Bottom tree the worst of the three. Nice try though. Also if you think dodge is the best class ability I have news for you the fastest cool down in 9 seconds with max mobility, warlocks get double dodge on a 5 second cool down... and they still get their rift as well. That’s way better than a hunter being able to dodge every 25 seconds( regular cool down) 🤦♂️[/quote] A dodge that can used faster, reloading weapons and turning you invisible. I just switched after 3800 to my hunter. Way easier to kill multiple opponents using the dodge and invisible effects than any warlock class. As good as warlocks are..... no where near as good as the hunter for pvp based activities.
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I just say stuff how it is. Don’t care about upvotes or the abusive tools that come along with it. It’s just to start a mature discussion about the neutering of the warlocks. ANY Titan main can’t say d—k. They eye masked their way through two entire seasons of Comp laughing as they got over shielded supers for an entire season. As well as you pointed out (correctly) then having a highly effective one hit kill move on so many skill trees. I have definitely died more times to that shoulder charge than any other one hit move.
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由Lost Sols編輯： 12/21/2019 12:58:30 PMThey showed in the season preview that throwing hammers can OHK now. Ballistic Slam is a OHK, you have to practice and master it, but it doesn't change that it is. So yes, 5 of 9 Titan subclasses have potential OHK abilities. Sorry your feelings are hurt.
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由Lost Sols編輯： 12/21/2019 5:49:48 PM[quote]Roaring Flames: hitting an enemy with your hammer and retrieving it will still trigger health regeneration and grant a buff stack. Additionally, the hammer damage bonus has been increased from 10% to 25% per stack in PvP, ensuring more reliable one-shot hammer kills. The buff duration has also been increased from 15 seconds to 20 seconds.[/quote] Oh hey, look. Throwing hammers can OHK. Doesn't matter if it requires activating the bonus damage, when that bonus damage then also lasts 20 seconds. It's also still more than every single Warlock class that's not HHS has. Thanks.
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由an Ape with a d2 addiction編輯： 12/21/2019 8:54:14 AMThrowing hammer has always been able to OHK with the buffs. It still needs the buffs to OHK. Solar plexus + hammer does 153. Solar plexus + roaring flames hammer does 189. OHK to 3 resilience and below. To OHK the population majority you'll need to get 2 kills with the hammer for roaring flames x2. Wormgod's changes that but it always has. Folks won't use it now for the same reasons as before. Too situational for the benefit. Avoid presenting throwing hammer as a free OHK. It's misleading. Could also argue shoulder charge viability in pvp but it's a worn argument that's too subjective to the platform and skill-bracket.
