Then everyone will run to the forums complain about being 2 tapped by rampage kill clip dukes.... personally I think they need way more range but not sure the forum dads would cope...these people think jotuun is op

For real. I got me a Wardens Law with Kill Clip and Outlaw. Sits in vault rusting out.

Give them the aim assist of Spare Rations. That's the real kicker. That [i]crispy[/i] aim assist.

I dissagree. 110s are not used enough to qualify for a nerf.

All HC's should have the range nerf removed.....before you lose your mind hear me out. The nerf was a hard cap placed on all HC. Why, because its easier to cap an entire weapons class regardless of perks so in this case range perks don't matter. You may have a god roll that had a range of 40 but the cap stops it at 30. Now if HC were tuned based on their sub-class/RPM range perks would matter again and a player could choose one more what their "individual" god roll was. The nerf was made bad because how it was executed not the nerf itself and 110 HC are the poster child of this bad nerf. This is just as bad as the nerf to Rampage which killed guns like Breakneck. Blank nerfs are always bad.

The range stat on all hand cannons needs to do more. The difference between the lowest range you can get to max is only around 4 meters, and since all hand cannons cannot get above 30 meters, they all just get dumped for more versatile primaries, namely pulses and scouts. They should all be buffed, with the range buff going up as the rate of fire decreases. 180s can stay similar to how they are now, maybe with a slight buff, with 150s being slightly further, 140s slightly further than 150s and 110s being slightly further than 140s. Not to mention the neutering of their PvE damages, to where it takes a Duke with 2 stacks of Rampage to one-crit an Acolyte in Heroics. With pulses and SMGs to compete with, that’s just pitiful. Would like to see them go back on the PvE damage and precision multiplier changes in addition to the range buffs.

Let Sturm become the legend it was always meant to be

Sure if there’s a nerf to the damage output. HC’s have been ridiculous since day 1 of this game.

Yeah. I have a perfectly rolled Duke that I was gonna pair with Eriana's Vow and Lucky Pants. Prime with Erianea's fast swap to Duke for the kill, proceed with rapid hit and rampage. Sounds fun on paper, but in practice the range/accuracy dropoff is so bad on 110s. Granted, at the time I was practicing the build scouts were everywhere so I was getting team shot to oblivion, but still. Annoying to say the least. Maybe it'd be better now that the Randy's grind has slowed.

Agreed,have a duke myself,lovely weapon but never ever,take it into pvp.Which is a shame.

110 of them? that's a lot of Hand Cannons!

I miss the Last Curse. It was a weapon that had to get crits

There is enough sniper rifles in the game. We don't need anymore.

For console yes PC is fine because it have no recoil