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A History of Eververse in 8 pages (with some sources)

(Added a link for anyone who might want to read all of what I wrote. but not have to search through the comments here to find where it's continued.) Eververse came out back in Destiny 1 during The Taken King, if this article is accurate (https://www.polygon.com/2015/10/12/9512577/destiny-the-taken-king-new-emotes-carlton-dance), it came out specifically on October 13, 2015. At it's creation it only sold emotes and only for silver, at this time you could also only have one unique emote equipped at once. Then came the first Festival of the Lost in October of the same year and Eververse got new seasonal emotes (you could still buy the original Eververse emotes), emotes you could only buy during that event, but it also got some new items. Specifically a loot box, called Legacy of the Lost, were you could get masks. Yes, you could get masks by just playing the game and collecting candy to fill bags up at that time, but those free masks would become unwearable after the event. Where as the ones you got from the loot box from Eververse would stick around and still be wearable after the event ended. As well as there was one mask, the Skull Mask, that you could only even find by opening those loot boxes, but it was also as an additional drop so you could have got it with another mask. (You did get one of the Eververse, Legacy of the Lost, loot boxes for free when you first talked with Eva Levante during the event) A few things you should know about those loot boxes though is, 1: there was no knockout list for rewards you could get from them 2: dismantling the masks you got from the loot boxes didn't give you any currency you could use to buy other Eververse items 3: what dismantling did give you though was an item, Paper Glue, which you could use to upgrade the free masks to allow you to keep those masks after the event 4: those mask were purely cosmetic they had no power at all and didn't even have any perks to use during the event 5: in-regards to the Skull mask being a possible additional drop with another mask this is where we see guaranteed loot pools where you got one of the rewards listed under it and possible loot pools where you could get up to two rewards under them, begin to pop-up with Eververse (the mask was the only cosmetic item in this possible lost pools the other possible items where event exclusive/usable consumable items.) (while not covering all the aspects of what was written here's a source for that that covered a lot of what was https://destiny.fandom.com/wiki/Festival_of_the_Lost) Next Eververse update happened in December, and we saw a few things happen. First, Eververse's inventory changed you could no longer buy the emotes that Eververse started out with directly; you could still get them but you would have to buy a mystery bag that gave you a random old emote; and instead new emotes were being sold. Along with that though, was that when you got your weekly nightfall reward you had the chance to get a mystery bag that would give you one of the previous Eververse emotes that you didn't already have. Again, this was just a chance and you weren't guaranteed a mystery bag to drop and you only had as many chances as you had characters for that week. Second, there was a new seasonal event at the same time SRL (Sparrow Racing League) and while it was fun and brought a new limited time activity it also brought with it it's own limited time Eververse items. Besides the one seasonal emote this event had for sale, these Eververse items were again in loot boxes. I say loot boxes because there were two for this event, a Sparrow Toolkit and a Custom Horn Kit, and they brought two new cosmetic type items to Eververse, Sparrows and Sparrow Horns which dropped from those loot boxes respectively (except there was one sparrow, the EV-43 Lightrunner which would only drop from the Custom Horn Kit). Now you could also earn horns through participating in SRL, but at the same time they were like the free masks for Festival of the Lost, where they would not be usable after the event ended. So if you wanted to keep a horn you had to dismantle an Eververse acquired horn to get a Horn Relay, which you could use to make another horn into a permanent version of the horn. Although also during the event you also had a chance at getting a Custom Horn Kit as a nightfall reward. Although there was one more seasonal item brought to the Eververse store, and which was met with controversy even from (and I hate to even talk about him at all even to back a point up) Datto, which was the SRL Record Book, Vol. 1. This item kept track of you stats thought the whole SRL event, times finished first, laps completed, fast lap, etc., it also gave you rewards for achieving goals in those stats, sort of like rewards for certain triumphs. Getting technical, with the rewards you could get from this book you could say Eververse started to sale armor, an emblem, and a shader at this time (it also had a sparrow reward, but sparrows were added to Eververse along with this event as previously stated). Now while the armor had perks that helped during the event there was also free armor you could get as well for the same amount of work and had the same perks so I would still consider the armor from the book purely cosmetic. The controversy over the book was not so much over the rewards, but more of that something to keep track of your stats for you to easily see should have been added. One other thing to add to this part is that the Sparrow Toolkit actually worked on a knockout list, but anything they dismantled didn't turn into anything you could use to purchase other Eververse items. (possibility of old emotes dropping as nightfall rewards https://gamerant.com/destiny-the-taken-king-emotes-nightfall-rewards/) (a source mentioning Datto commenting on the SRL Record Book as well as a video that show the contents of Eververse at that time https://planetdestiny.com/bungie-free-events-eververse/) (list of SRL rewards and how to obtain them https://www.destinypedia.com/Sparrow_Racing_League) Crimson days was the next time Eververse was updated in February 2016, but that only added 5 seasonal emotes and changed nothing else about Eververse so I won't go into any more detail about it. (While this shows all of what Eververse sold it also shows it only sold those emotes during Crimison day if you didn't believe me https://www.destinypedia.com/Eververse_Trading_Company) The next update for Eververse came out in April 2016. A few things were seen with this update, another change of emotes (with a new mystery bag so you could still get the old emotes) and a new type loot box, Sterling Treasure, with two new armor sets (and glows for one of the armor sets as well as Faction vendor armor and some Reef weapons, which were one time use), two new ship and a new sparrow were also possible drops along with an armor piece. All of the armor was in the guaranteed loot pool, but everything else was in the possible loot pool including more instances of the class items of both armor sets for all the classes. Again, this time you still had a chance to earn old mystery bags from doing nightfalls as one of the possible drops. For the first time though you could also earn one of the loot boxes being sold, the Sterling Treasure one, as a guaranteed reward up to three times per account. One for free from the postmaster, one for doing a crucible match, and one for doing the hardest difficulty of Prison of Elders. Allowing you to get some Eververse gear without evening having to spend money on Silver. Although, that did come to an end on September 8, 2016 for at least two of the three free sources, postmaster and crucible. Also again, no knockout list, no currency from dismantle to use to buy other items. (April update https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/44609) (September update https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45172/7_Destiny-Update-090816) The next update to Eververse came with Rise of Iron in September 2016. The update saw new emotes and a new loot box, Radiant Treasure, which brought with it a new cosmetic type ornaments (as well as a loot box exclusive emote, Finger Wag, which was in the possible loot pool). You could get one of these loot boxes free each week by doing a SIVA Crisis Strike. From this loot box also came two type of ornaments, exotic weapon ornaments and a token you could use on any iron banner armor to change it's look (this token type of ornament was in the possible loot pool). With those ornaments came something else as well, Silver Dust. Now Silver Dust didn't act like Bright Dust at this point, when it first came out it was used to apply ornaments to weapons and armor, which you need 5 Silver Dust to Apply one ornament. There was only two ways to get Silver Dust as well, either by Radiant Treasure were you would only get one or by dismantling an ornament. Yes, you read that write at first you could dismantle ornaments meaning you would lose the ornament altogether. At the same time, even after using the Silver Dust to apply the ornament to a piece of equipment, if you wanted to revert to the old look, even for a little, it would mean losing the ornament for the weapon and you wouldn't even get the Silver Dust back from that application. Again no knockout list for the loot box, but this time they added something to use for other cosmetics that wasn't event related for dismantling cosmetics. (explaining how ornaments worked in Destiny 1 https://destiny.fandom.com/wiki/Ornament) (showing how ornaments used to cost Silver Dust to apply https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45464/7_Destiny-Update---12132016)

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  • Had to stop reading after you saying that masks could not be worn after event. I got the skull mask on my alt account for free and could wear it still if I ever fire up D1, but I won’t be playing ever again! You started with two wrong points I bet the rest of your story is flawed too.

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    • I assume you're going to ignore the year 3 festival of the "cost", year 3 dawning and treasure of the ages?

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      • Bump, good long read.

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      • That's the longest I've ever spent reading anything on this forum. Well done, it must have taken a long time to gather all of this information. I'd recommend copying this to some kind of external source or website, it's quite easy to miss all of the parts about D2.

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        • It gets worse and worse. Until we all move to another product. Then Bungie: Where are all consumers at? Why are we losing weight? We want to remain a morbidly obese, dumbed down, lazy greedy company, with a sugar daddy...

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          • Then another Festival of the Lost event happened in October 2016. A new loot box was added for masks, Treasures of the Lost, and while there were new masks it also had some of the old masks to it's loot pool, which diluted your chances of getting new masks to keep after the event. More to add to that point is that all masks, even those acquired for free during the event, would persist after the event, and that people who had made masks to keep from the previous year were not reimbursed in any way. Along with the masks, like previous loot boxes, there were also exclusive possible drops. An exclusive mask, two Ghost shells, a Sparrow, and two weapon ornaments for Bad Juju. This marks two other firsts for Eververse, Ghost shells, which didn't add any new perks that other Ghost shells could have rolled at the time, and new weapon ornaments being in a seasonal event loot box, although even during the event Bugnie said those ornaments would be added to the Radiant Treasure loot box after the event. Again no knockout list, and besides the ornaments nothing from dismantling items. (showing that loot box's content https://destiny.fandom.com/wiki/Treasures_of_the_Lost) Not specifically an Eververse update, but an update to refute a bit of a previous point, on October 18, 2016 they had turned people's leftover Horn Relays from the SRL event useless and gave everyone 15 Silver Dust as well as let people dismantle Paper Glue, from the Festival of the Lost event in 2015, into one Silver Dust a piece. The Horn Relay wasn't a specific rectifications to those who had previously used Horn Relays as it was given to all players, nor was the did it benefit those who had used Paper Glue to keep masks only those who had kept Paper Glue up to that point. (update showing that information https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45338/7_Destiny-Update---101816) Another non-Eververse update, but is still semi-relevant to the history of Eververse that I think should be included is Dusty Iron Engrams (I had even forgot about them until I was looking up some of this old information). These were engrams that you could buy from Saladin that had Iron Banner armor from the previous years as possible drops, but were they tie into Eververse is that to buy them you had to use Silver Dust, 5 to be exact, for each engram. The armor from these engrams actually did dismantle back into some re-spendable material, only 1 Silver Dust and only after an update. (found them talked about here https://gamerant.com/destiny-iron-banner-engram-544/) (update showing that they dismantled into Silver Dust https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45367/7_Destiny-Hotfix---110816) Another thing to add is that Xur also sold weapon ornaments for awhile, I'm not sure on the exact start of the time frame, but he stopped selling them with the introduction to the Dawning and the second SRL event in December 2016. He sold them as a combo pack where you would get a specific ornament for each weapon he was selling each week. The combo pack would still cost Silver Dust (10? - 15?) for the ornament as well as Strange Coins for the weapon, but this was a way to guarantee getting a certain ornament over trying the Radiant Treasure for that ornament. (The rest of this is purely speculation as I haven't looked for reference material for this point, so if anyone else finds any please let me know so I can edit this and add it in.) (Begin Speculation) The ornament for the weapon would change just like the inventory he offered each week. So while he might have sold the same weapon one it could have come with a different ornament the next week. As well as you still had to pay to apply the ornament for the weapon. (End Speculation) (showing that Xur has stopped selling exotic weapon ornaments https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45464/7_Destiny-Update---12132016) At the same time Xur stopped selling exotic weapon ornaments (December 2016) we saw a slew of things happen in regards to Eververse. A new seasonal event, the return of SRL, new items in Eververse, ways to get those items without using Silver, and ways to use Silver Dust instead of for applying ornaments. This is the first Dawning Event to happen, also the only one for Destiny 1, it came with a new loot box, Treasures of the Dawning, which had two armor sets to try to obtain one in the guaranteed loot pool and one in the possible loot pool, for each character. Along with new sparrows and weapon ornaments in the guaranteed loot pool and new sparrow horns in the possible loot pool. A lot more to continue this point, you could earn one Treasures of the Dawning on each character for reach max rank in SRL as well as an additional Treasure of the Dawning each week for doing a Heroic Weekly Strike. So while SRL didn't have it's own loot box to buy from Eververse, the one for the Dawning basically had loot in it that fit for the SRL event. For this SRL event though Bugnie also gave everyone a free record book, like the one people could have bought for the first SRL event. One more thing to add about the Treasures of the Dawning loot box is that there were also two more rewards you could get if you completed an armor set from it, the EV-53 Glimmergold sparrow and the Sunglow Shader, which is a first time there was loot tied to completing an Eververse set. New emotes were also made to purchase directly with the old ones rotating out, but now sometime old emotes could rotate in to buy directly. The free Radiant Treasure was still available to get weekly, it just moved from having to do a SIVA Crisis Strike to having to do a Crucible match. Although the two biggest changes were that you no longer need to pay Silver Dust to apply ornaments and that now there was a store to spend all of you extra Silver Dust on past emotes and on specific weapon ornaments. Ornaments were still on a one time use basis and also still dismantled into Silver Dust. Also loot boxes still didn't work on a knockout list. (show all of those changes that were made https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45464/7_Destiny-Update---12132016) One last change came to Eververse in Destiny 1, during the Age of Triumph. When they were introduced, up until now, you could still earn one Sterling Treasure, one Radiant Treasure, and one Treasure of the Dawning each week from their doing a specific activity for each of them. Now they were replaced with the final Eververse loot box, the Treasure of Ages, in this loot box for the guaranteed section you could get anything from any of the previous loot boxes, and in the possible section they added a new armor set, some new exotic weapon ornaments, two new ships, and three new shaders. The shaders were a first in one regard in that it's the first time they were added to a loot box. Three final things to add, 1: it also says that this is when Xur started to sell combo packs for 30 strange coins and 25 Silver Dust so I might have gotten my previous point on Xur wrong on the fact that he sold combo packs before (but not about the fact that he sold exotic weapon ornaments) 2: that a bunch new of engrams became available from all Faction, Crucible, and Vanguard vendors as well as two more in the Silver Dust store, these all cost Silver Dust and turn into a piece of gear from previous years 3: no knockout list for rewards was added to this loot box. (showing the final Eververse change https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45753) (showing the loot pool from the final loot box of Destiny 1 https://destiny.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_of_Ages) So from Destiny one we saw Eververse go from emotes to anything, as long as it was considered cosmetic, besides that one instance they sold a record book. From having to dismantle event items that you got from Eververse to get parts so you can save their free-play counterparts, to not needing to do that, but also added some of those seasonal item types being only available to that seasonal loot box. From ornaments costing Silver Dust to apply them, to not costing. From being able to acquire loot boxes for free, to being able to get up to 3 a week from specific activities. From not letting you be able to dismantle it's loot to save up to buy something else you want from Eververse, to actually being able to dismantle items and use what you get to buy what you want from Eververse. To adding one final loot box that had the possibility of getting the loot from any previous loot box as well as the ability to buy any emote or ornament that had come out for Silver Dust as well as being able to get any previous years version of an armor set for vendors for Silver Dust as well. Know for Destiny 2 so far....

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            • I remember they said eververse would fund free content.

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            • Did we went from earning the seasonal event cosmetics by leveling up (playing the game) to have buy silver or devote you life to play the game so you can avoid pay real money for getting such rewards to strictly [i]where's my money [/i] Chilling.

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            • Bump, Off with Tesses head.

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            • Sounds a bit convoluted for microtransactions. Buy this for that, do that for this, break it down so you can do this with that, get this from an event but that only comes from loot boxes... 🙄 No wonder people hate these f***ing things. And that doesn't even touch on bullying, social peer pressure, and the fomo effect they have....

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              • Can you also do a history of other vendors since the introduction of Eververse?

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                • I appreciate you doing this and will give an upvote but it hurts my eyes to read the whole thing. More paragraphs are needed

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                  • Dude, please put more paragraph breaks in this. As is, ain’t no way I’m gonna read it. Hurts my eyes.

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                    • Ppl REALLY this upset over cosmetic items? Good grief!

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                      • You missed sterling Treasure in the taken king a loot box with a taken armor set in it. It’s also worth pointing out that set was a reskin

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                        • Upvoted for taking the time to put all this together.

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