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由dA B3ASTLY b3ar編輯: 9/22/2019 4:58:21 AM
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Where's the LOOT?!?!

Excluding pinnacle quests, we have as many Crucible weapons in the game currently at about the point of The Dark Below of Destiny 1. Same with Vanguard weapons. Let that sink in. Three years into Destiny 2 compared to around 3-4 months in Destiny 1. Bungie says they aren't doing anything with vendors. If I had to bet my money, they are either going to reskin a y1 weapon. Notice how I said 'a' and not 'some'. Same with Shaxx. They do the bare minimum. This is a looter shooter. I don't care about Shaxx and Zavalla selling 5 different emblems. Give them weapons! Remember the vendors we had in D1? Shaxx, Arcite 99-40, and the Vanguard frame? Faction Vendors? Now Shaxx is a glorified emblem vendor. Arcite 99-40 now types on his computer 24/7. Zavalla is also on the same level of Shaxx. Edit 1: Love how people can actually downvote this topic. Goes to show how far people are up Bungie's ass Edit 2: To all the PvE people that downvoted and think I'm only talking about PvP and Shaxx...please read and don't embarrass yourself Edit 3: For those of you asking, there were 24 Crucible weapons and 24 Vanguard weapons at the end of Dark Below. Going on D2Y3 and excluding pinnacle quests and complete reskins, we are at 20. Edit 4: Notice how Bungie won't reply to a topic that criticizes them, but respond to the stupidest threads? Edit 5: to anyone who thinks this is an anti Destiny 2 post, it isn't. Look at my profile. 3 750 characters. I'm not a hypocrite

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  • Yeah, this game sucks

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  • 由CheddarChaddar編輯: 10/17/2019 3:58:22 AM
    Ouh

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  • 90% of players don't know what decent loot is or what to chase. There are some extremely powerful mods in this game. Weapons are subjective. If you really think there is no loot in destiny 2 it's time to quit the game and give up on it.

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    • Regarding your edit what you are basically saying is how dare anyone disagree with your view point. Poor attitude from you and no I am not one of those who has down voted you. There are some valid points in your post as it goes. Insulting dissenters loses you the argument.

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      • 由Cudd1eZombi3編輯: 9/21/2019 11:11:35 PM
        I think Bungie forgot the loot way back when they lost all direction for the game. It's quite funny when you think about it as destiny did start out as a shared world loot shooter. But you mention this and everyone's forgotten and is so far up bungies butt that they believe it will somehow be or already is an MMO. Do yourselves a favour, look up MMO. Destiny isn't one, it will never be one. Simple. It's really silly as well when you think of how few guns there are and how people scramble to use a meta. Random rolls got re-introduced because people moaned yet it didn't increase the loot pool. People still clamored for a meta. Yes we get pinnacle weapons but most people don't use them. Plus the pvp one last season (recluse) is more for pve, yet its pvp. Erm what? Did someone have a brain fart and not fix it? We got a grenade launcher.....they are getting nerfed indirectly. A bow that everyone thinks is crap. Not to mention last season the vanguard pinnacle was a scout rifle that no ones uses......there is a serious lack of loot. It's quite funny. Maybe we should all ask for some spoons instead. Wonder if they could manage that.

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      • They should down vote this post. This game is not a loot shooter. The devs have been calling it a MMO for months. Borderlands is a loot shooter.

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        • 由Dirty8Speciall編輯: 9/20/2019 3:29:43 PM
          Well they were kind of a looter/shooter until BL3 came out and just made what they offer look awful by comparison. Now they're trying to call themselves an MMO, but yeah I look at games like ESO and just chuckle at that comparison. It's the Wal-mart of FPS/MMO's. It has a bit of everything, and it's a great value. But it doesn't do anything exceptionally well. Other than the gunplay itself, that's what holds it all together. They don't really know what this game is and they're afraid to really drive in one solid direction for fear of ticking off a portion of the player base. Except grind, the one thing they've all agreed on is that the game needs to be grindy.

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          • Borderlands 3 has a shit ton of loot.

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          • Ya ive got 0 motivation to log on, and or buy shadowkeep at this point

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            • You guys playing this claim it's not a looter / shooter. Now to get out of the bathroom and return to Borderlands 3

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            • All the loot is in Borderlands 3...

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            • Oh, there's a ton of loot in this game......and it's all blue.

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              • [quote]Excluding pinnacle quests, we have as many Crucible weapons in the game currently at about the point of The Dark Below of Destiny 1. Same with Vanguard weapons. Let that sink in. Three years into Destiny 2 compared to around 3-4 months in Destiny 1. Bungie says they aren't doing anything with vendors. If I had to bet my money, they are either going to reskin a y1 weapon. Notice how I said 'a' and not 'some'. Same with Shaxx. They do the bare minimum. This is a looter shooter. I don't care about Shaxx and Zavalla selling 5 different emblems. Give them weapons! Remember the vendors we had in D1? Shaxx, Arcite 99-40, and the Vanguard frame? Faction Vendors? Now Shaxx is a glorified emblem vendor. Arcite 99-40 now types on his computer 24/7. Zavalla is also on the same level of Shaxx. Edit 1: Love how people can actually downvote this topic. Goes to show how far people are up Bungie's ass[/quote] I understand the frustrations and most are justified especially now but we have confirmation that there is a new expansion not dlc because this is drastically changing the game therefore it is an expansion and the size or rise of iron which despite being smaller than taken king still bigger then warmind and osiris combined. We don't know the details of shadowkeep so all the rants about it or complaints about now when we know change is coming is worthless. Broken record man.

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                • Bungie is doing the bare minimum while being split up to work on future content. You guys should know their routine by now, which is that only new and sellable content is tweaked or made. They’re not going to hop off from working on Tess’s horror mtx ship to go fix vendors that the f2p players have access too. Y’all are like a broken record that is in denial that the record player is broken and not getting fixed. Also, much of what many of us actually want at a minimum is being saved for a free seasonal/timegated or age of triumphs deal. Bungie is taking baby steps here and the sooner folks realize and push back with their wallet, the better. Bungie has to be forced thru financial means to change their philosophy of NOT tweaking old content/vendors. But hey, I’m there with you too, peeing in the wind

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                  • 由superluigi6968編輯: 9/20/2019 1:56:42 AM
                    D2Y1 crucible and vanguard armor never got refreshed. But they did add ornaments for both sets in S2 and S3 that you get by playing the activity in that season. The current Vanguard and Crucible Sets are...not great. The entire Vanguard set across all three classes is just a less shiny reskin of the Kairos Function suit, except for the Titan helmet, which is a blue. Why they didn't just make the Vanguard/Crucible armor start dropping as Y2 Random Rolls and keep rolling out ornaments, I'll never know. Also, the Meditation Activity, which used to be an in-universe reason for Daily Heroic Missions existing, that awarded players with Legendary, clean versions of the starter armor sets, has been removed from the game or deactivated. Instead of making that armor in Y2 RR armor, they just removed the activity entirely, and now the Meditations are the significantly less interesting sounding Daily Heroic Story Mission, which does not even have its own unique loot pool, and awards Forsaken-era weapons and armor. Ikora has been a once-a-week stop for getting a shiny engram ever since.

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                    • Source? Numbers? [url=https://db.destinytracker.com/d2/ru/items/weapon]There are currently over 600 weapons in D2 in total[/url]. Were there that many weapons in D1 when Dark Below launched? No. There are currently way more sources of loot in D2 than D1. The game is much bigger. So why are you even trying to specifically compare vanguard and crucible weapons between the two games. Try to gain some perspective and stop complaining.

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                      • Yeah the people who downvotes on this site tend to be.... What's a good word? Hmmmm. Oh yeah, beyond braindead and damaged to the extent that a braindead and literally dead ant could do more than them.

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                        • Yeah their version of new is a paint job and/or a bullshit ornament.

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                          • What's the point of more weapons when rampage or some form of kill clip are still the only things anyone chases? Bungie isn't coming up with enough new and better perks to even warrant more weapons in the first place. I don't want more weapons unless they are coming with brand new perks that don't include any of the ones we already have in the game.

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                            • This season: 16 (10 new, 3 are class swords) - Crown of Sorrow: 4 legendaries - Menagerie: 8 legendaries + 2 Y1 now with random rolls. - IB: 2 returning Y1 Season of the Drifter: 14 (10 new) - Reckoning/Gambit Prime: 10 legendaries - IB: 2 returning vanilla Weapons - Vendors: 2 returning Y1 Weapons Season of the Forge: 29 (13 new, 11 new and obtainable) - Forge: 7 legendaries + 10 returning Y1 Weapons - Scourge of the Past: 4 - Vendors: 2 returning Y1 Weapons - IB: 2 returning Y1 Weapons - Events: 2, but neither are obtainable now. Forsaken: 81 (65 new, 64 new and obtainable) - Tangled Shore: 14 - World Drop: 7 (2 are fixed roll) - Dreaming City: 8 - Last Wish: 8 - Gambit: 8 - Crucible: 3 + 3 returning Y1 Weapons - Vanguard: 3 + 3 returning Y1 Weapons - IB: 5 - Fixed Roll: 4 (one event only.) - Nightfall: 3 - Gunsmith: 11 (10 are returning Y1) New weapons by type since forsaken: - AR: 9 new (1 isn’t obtainable) 3Adpt, 2HI, 1RF, 4Pre - PR: 8 new, 3Agre, 1LW, 3RF, 0HI, 2Adpt - SR: 9 new, 5HI, 2LW, 2Pre - HC: 10 new, 4Adpt, 2LW, 3HI, 1Pre - SA: 6 new, 2Pre, 2Agre, 1LW, 1Adpt (1 fixed roll) 0brst, 0FA - SMG: 6 new, 1Agre, 2LW, 2Adpt, 1Pre - Bow: 6 new, 2Pre, 4LW (1 fixed roll and 1 not obtainable.) - SG: 10 new, 2Pre, 4Agre, 2LW, 2RF, 0Slg - SNR: 10 new, 3Agre, 2RF, 5Adpt - FR: 3 new, 1Adpt, 2Pre, 0RF, 0HI - RL: 5new, 2HI, 3Adpt, 0Agre, 0Pre - GL: 7 new, 1LW, 3Adpt, 3Agre, 0Pre (1 fixed roll) - LFR: 1new, 1Pre - MG: 4new, 2Adpt, 2HI (1 not obtainable) - SW: 6 new, 4Adpt, 1Agre, 1LW (3 are reskins) We haven’t had a solid amount of new weapons since forsaken and there are a lot of weapon types that have no variety.

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                              • You're making an assumption that this is a Looter. It's not. Looters drop toys from just about every kill.

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                              • You are dealing with lazy, scummy, greedy, incompetent scam artists. Of course they will do just the bare minimum, re-skinning paid content and offering just lame emblem rewards for, again, paid content. They are hacks with the sole mission of extracting as much money from you as possible while doing the least work possible. On top of all of that, they only focus on eververse every season, which requires no balancing (even though the con artists make ornaments increase gun range), and they’re planning on [b]REMOVING[/b] future paid content (which is also just recycled garbage, but it’s paid nonetheless) soon after it’s released, all for some cheap psychological tricks that [i]might[/i] get us to spend more (it has already cost them many players). Never trust a single word they say.

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                                • I got it all, my bad! I'll start returning loot now, who wants a half-decent rolled Austringer to start off? Early bird gets the Worm God!

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                                • It’s over in Borderlands....

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                                  • ----Let that sink in. Three years into Destiny 2 compared to around 3-4 months in Destiny 1. First of all Destiny 2 has been out for 2 years and 2 weeks, not 3 years. Here is why you wont get vendor resets. Think of all the tokens, materials and legendary shards current players already have. On day one of vendor resets you would be able to get all of the new weapons and armor, no need to grind. If you did have to grind for materials, I for sure would not want to play old content that I have been playing for upwards of 2 years. They are trying to fix those 2 problems. With new additions to the game, they want everyone to have a level playing field. That is why they add new materials for you to grind along with the new content. This is what most games do like this. Most players want something new, not having to grind older content.

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                                    • 由JensBoef編輯: 9/20/2019 11:01:42 PM
                                      It's just insane that they didn't already updated ALL year 1 weapons with random rolls. They don't even have to design new weapons. Just add random rolls to them. What is Bungie afraid that we might actually enjoy it?

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