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由thecheater740編輯: 1/13/2017 3:09:23 AM
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Argument for FWC as the right choice of faction

I'm just going to get right into explaining: New monarchy are commies. 'Nuff said. Seriously, look at the underlined parts of their platform: [spoiler]1. To secure our walls against the enemy without. 2. To secure the rights and liberties of every [u]upstanding citizen.[/u] 3. To sponsor the sciences of the City, and to salvage the ruins beyond, so that our Golden Age might be reborn. 4. To support the Guardian Orders by leading the City in technological innovation. 5. To support the natural harmony of the City, and to [u]actively dissuade any group or individual that might disrupt that harmony. [/u] 6. To hold all individuals, compacts, and alliances to the highest standards of productivity and right behavior. 7. To, by vote of the Consensus, abolish the Consensus, and transfer ultimate power, in order that the rights and liberties of all citizens be secured, to [u]a single sovereign of unimpeachable character.[/u][/spoiler] The first underline, upstanding citizen, is sugar coat for the 1%. It clearly says that it's going to give the 1% rights, but the other 99% don't get their own tenet. The second ,actively dissuade any group or individual that might disrupt that harmony., is something typical of real world communist regimes. It could easily mean calling their political opponents terrorists and banning them, but it's disguised as something good. The third,a single sovereign of unimpeachable character., is another mark of typical communism, the lifetime ruler with absolute power. It doesn't specifically say "absolute power" but it says single ruler, meaning no Congress or supreme Court or likely Constitution to stop him, so where else is the power but the king? Something you may not have known is that the word unimpeachable does not mean not being able to be removed from office, but here's the real definition: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/unimpeachable . This doesn't have to mean anything, they could just drop it once they win. The king is likely to be also the incorrect meaning too though. Don't vote NM. NM is communist NWO illuminati. Now on to dead orbit, now I can get into what I know best: the darkness; more specifically the Hive. The hive's goal is to exterminate all life in the universe, they deem anything that can be killed as unworthy to live. Many uneducated dead orbit supporters would claim that all the aliens attacking earth are only after the traveler. This is only correct for the fallen; the vex see us as threats to their godhood, and the cabal are, kind of ironically, more unknown, some say they're running from something, others say they want to conquer earth for territory. But the Hive are the most powerful of the aliens attacking earth. Once they get the traveler, they will be unstoppable with the power they gain from destroying the traveler, and they won't stop there, they will continue to roam the universe until it's all theirs, and they won't be stopped by anything else, with the traveler's power taken from us. It needs to end here, or it will never end. And now, for the moment only I've been waiting for (because nobody's going to read my post, you never do): the Future War Cult! The FWC want to take the fight to the darkness first, and defeat it with the help of their time machine. Most of the timelines have an end where the darkness wins, or the city is destroyed, except for a few. Improvements of the time machine can find out what the alternate-timeline guardians did to defend the city. The other part of FWC is also good for the city, as I said before about the Hive, they will not stop until they're defeated, and FWC is the only faction that wants to explicitly go out there and take the fight to them, like what we've been doing as we play destiny. It all comes down to this: you can't run from the Hive, and new monarchy doesn't even seem to care as much about the ALIEN APOCALYPSE as getting their party the presidency. EDIT: I know that new monarchy isn't the communist party, but communist, to most people, means any place where the ruler has a lot of power and people are opressed. Communism really refers to the government having control over the economy.
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  • [quote]But the Hive are the most powerful of the aliens attacking earth.[/quote] No..... The Cabal crashed a ship into the dreadnaught and would have destroyed ahlf the solar system and the dreadnaught had we not stopped them. They didn't have any trouble fighting their way either onto the flagship of the "most power enemy" or marching down to the reactor room with a tonne of explosives to blow it the hell up. Don't think they see the Hive as much of a threat to be honest and wasn't it Oryx herself who acknowledged that s/he would eventually meet someone more powerful and the only way to continue after that was to become part of the more powerful creature, whether that be a sword or just a lingering memory influencing their actions from the beyond.

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  • New Monarchy are monarchists, where one person has control over everything

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  • Dead orbit are cowards

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  • Yeah, but the FWC gear and shaders look like a -blam!-ing rainbow threw up on it (I'm repping FWC btw)

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    • Lol. All the factions have crap philosophies, that is the point! Especially FWC. It was an amazing move by bungie, subtly pointing out what real humans would do in an actual apocalyptic scenario: Look to some hero to solve their problems for them Run away from it like pansies Just give up entirely and say "fuk it" Lets be clear, NM doesn't want a new government or even a king: They want a messiah figure they can dump their problems on. DO doesn't want to retreat to new territory or explore new area, they want to run away from something they can't shoot to death. FWC is especially bad though, because they literally don't want to do anything new. They just want to keep throwing guardians and even non-guardians at the darkness, despite "knowing" it will fail. So no, none of the factions are good, Especially FWC.

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      • My warlock is fwc My titan is db My hunter is nm Absolutely no effinn reason except I started with my warlock and I knew fwc was needed for sleeper I think.

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        • The FWC shaders are just so ugly...

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          • 由bobswerski編輯: 1/15/2017 5:43:31 PM
            Lose the part about communism and I can get on board, because what you mostly correctly describe as NM's goal is basically a constitutional monarchy (weird, right? it's almost like they chose that name on purpose...) and definitely not communism. Common misconception, as in practice most countries which claim communism tend to become totalitarian.

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          • Implies one undeveloped and pointless character is better than another Implies I need to be reminded what unimpeachable means Implies the choice matters because the loot is the same and the factions motives are so underdeveloped they're nigh indecipherable.

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          • So McCain was stumping for FWC back in 2008?

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            • I think we can all agree on one thing regarding the factions...the "new" armor for ROI is terrible. I don't like any of it. Still shooting for a set of chroma for my titan. Rank 25 and I think I've had 7-8 double mark drops, the struggle is real.

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            • 1st, NM doesn't want a communist rule. They want a Monarchy. Its literally in the name. And how can NM be comunist anyway if they're all about the 1% when communism is making everyone equal (whether they like it or not). They also want to stay inside the walls, never expanding and and retaking Earth. This is beyond stupid. DO just want to leave Earth, abandon everything and spend the rest of humanity's existence running. This is down right retarted. FWC seems the most practical. They want to make stand and fight because they have viewed every timeline and we never win. They want to change that. However, using the machine to view the different timelines has driven guardians to insanity yet Lakshmi keeps sending guardians to use the machine. Its even been theorised that one of the driven-mad guardians is who made Red Death. This isn't morally right and is kinda shady. None of the factions are completely right in their approach. None of them will probably end up 'winning' in the end. But they all play their part in aiding the City and Humanity as a whole.

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            • My hunter is New Monarchy. My Titan is dead orbit. My warlock is Future war cult. I don't see why, With three characters and three factions that people would limit themselves to one faction.

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              • True communism has no central power or leader...maybe rather then reading grimmore cards , idk

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              • Can we just shoot them all and give cayde full control

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              • [quote]EDIT: I know that new monarchy isn't the communist party, but communist, to most people, means any place where the ruler has a lot of power and people are opressed. Communism really refers to the government having control over the economy.[/quote] I think you are still very confused. Communism is not in anyway shape or form the government controlling the economy. What you are describing is a feudal system not communism. Go read George Orwell's "Animal farm" then go research "feudal system" before trying again.

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              • New Monarchy has fur on their armor. Your argument is invalid.

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              • The word you're looking for is fascist. New monarchy is a fascist party, not a communist one.

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                • There are 3 factions, you have 3 character slots.....

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                  • Quality post my dude

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                  • Pretty much choose the one that give the best weapons. Now it's definitely fwc during year 2 it was dead orbit for hung jury.

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                  • New Monarchy is oligarchical/authoritarian. Not at all communist.

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                  • We are fighting a losing war, sure, we can hold them for a bit. But Oryx's demise has left a power vacuum. The cabal armies are coming, the fallen house of kings has been basically untouched. And, yes, the hive would come for use anyway, but the traveler coming here speed that up. Also, the traveler is healing, who's here to say that the traveler won't just leave once it's able to. We will then die suffocating from the lack of light. We can fight, yes, but for how long? We should have ships on standby so we can flee when necessary. And staying here when all hope is lost, is suicide.

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                  • In the end, it's all about the ships, shaders, gear, and weapons. "Dead Orbit is a bunch of cowards and I will never join th... oooh, nice shotgun."

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                    • That's not communism. That's a monarchy. And the underlined portions (like the "disturb the peace") are pretty broad.

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                    • Communism is = everyone is equal. Yet you claim they (NM) are "for the 1%ers" Maybe you need to go back and rethink your NM argument.

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