[quote]They like crutch players using "melees" that can one-shot anywhere between 0-50 feet, losers crouch-spamming, and cowards hiding behind Barricade/Invisibility/Healing Rift. And yes, they also like loser players freezing other players solid and stringing them up to keep them from aiming, most literally making PvP no longer a game. Bungie doesn't want skill in their games. They openly committed themselves to sabotaging PvP when Behond Light came out, and they've only doubled and tripled down since then. Renegades will make things worse, as has been made clear by it's soulless trailer. Unfortunately, fighting from a distance is the only real workaround. That, or embracing the chaos, as in not worrying about something as dumb as K/D bringing you down. I just run in and fight aggressively. It improved me a lot.[/quote] I’m already a very aggressive player but the abilities are just WAYYYY too much especially freeze and suspend making crucible ACTUALLY UNPLAYABLE. I’m a pvp main Iv had a goal of getting every trials adept weapon to 10k crucible kills Iv only got 6 more adept weapons to go but this sandbox makes gunplay almost an impossibility and I’m REALLY REALLY SICK OF IT!!!!! Also ik my goal of getting all the adept weapons to 10k crucible kills is dumb but it’s just my thing just to add an extra layer of prestige to the weapon Iv even got the adept bow and glaive at 10k. Pvp is just the place Iv called home in destiny for years it’s really the only place I fit in in the destiny community, I’m horrible at pve and I get kicked from every raid group Iv been apart of so seeing pvp in this bad of shape is infuriating lmfao