Because he can't admit to himself that he isn't as good as he thinks he is lol. He sees a player dominate this encounter on YouTube, and because he can do basic analysis of the plays being made, he suddenly thinks he can perform it with no issue and thinks it's easy. It's like the couch potato that watches professional sports, sees the immediate interaction on the screen in front of him, and truly believes he could do better. Without a single considerate thought towards the idea of how fast you have to be, how strong you have to be, and how extensively difficult it is to compete at a professional level. It's just even sadder because it's towards a video game that he actually plays.

Good for you.

[quote] It absolutely is of value to point out you're arguing a point I never made. That's called a strawman argument. [/quote] It's not a strawman because the entirety of your argument is based upon the notion that the only challenge is tedious and repetitive elements to the content. You defining that you are bored of that to correct me from you thinking it's lazy is irrelevant because you are still disrespecting the challenge as a whole by only calling it tedious and repetitive. [quote] So whether or not you think it's lazy is meaningless because you already are disrespecting the challenge whether you intended it or not with your wrong analysis. And the "struggle" is over I did the dungeon solo and know the encounters. If I was so inclined to go in again, I would already have the strategy and combat rhythm down. The only mountain left to climb is tedium [/quote] Again, you won't clear SF because this is just flat out wrong and you know it subconsciously. If it were as easy as you say, then you'd have SF done on the easier dungeons because they are not nearly as beefy or as chaotic as VH is. But you don't because even in the easier ones, you lack the skill to adjust to the game environment that you claim to have mastered. It takes a special kind of ignorance to proclaim you have the dungeons mastered as you do, but take over 4.5 hours or even 2 hours clearing something as free as Grasp of Avarice by comparison. [quote] Disagree. Contest is learning how the mechanics work period. Learning how to perform them solo with more heat on you is a different challenge. [/quote] ........you do realize the mechanics are the same, right? You're extensively undermining this "I have this dungeon mastered" viewpoint even further by revealing how little expertise you're showing you have on the content. Which is it? "I was learning mechanics so I wasn't as fast as clearing it", or "I'm not good enough to understand how being alone makes mechanics that I already know more challenging"? Pick a struggle. [quote] You're putting words in my mouth again. I'm not saying that you should be able to clear a check with any weapon. I'm saying that you should be able to reasonably clear the encounter in 4 phases with a weapon that's prevalent in the meta without being perfectly suited for the encounter. [/quote] Brother, context is a very important thing in these discussions and trying to be literal over this just further shows your arrogance. You know the point of this discussion is that the decision for weapon choice is part of the design. There are many, many ways to handle Corrupted that can 4 phase this boss with even Legendary weapons only for boss DPS on multiple different classes. If you can't figure out a weapon rotation that does better than a 10 phase, that is a massive skill issue with the amount of weapons that can push this boss into a 4-5 phase. There are over 6 loadouts alone that I could list that if performed well, can get the job done. Not even including those two phase strats you see on YT. The fact that you couldn't even come up with one loadout that can achieve half of that damage, shows your game knowledge and expertise is just not there. As much as you want to deny it to yourself, you can't: you're not the guy when it comes to Destiny 2 mastery. Another reason why it's valid to assume you will never get the SF done if you stay this arrogant and ignorant. [quote] Again no. The challenge should come from learning to do the mechanics with 3 times the heat on you. And no one to cover you while doing mechanics. Challenge from attrition is not engaging. And this isn't about farming the dungeon solo. You can already easily do that with the first encounter (that boss health scaling wouldn't change) more efficiently than full runs. That's an irrelevant point you keep bringing up.[/quote] The funny thing is that even when you attempt to make a point about what you want, you don't even realize how that's exactly what's happening in a dungeon like VH. If you were talking about Spire of the Watcher or perhaps, even Ghosts of the Deep's final boss DPS phase, then this would have some merit. But not VH. It almost makes me wonder if you even did your solo run at this point, considering how little respect you're showing to that DPS phase on the final boss. But you're leaving anyway, so not really worth bringing that up. [quote] I absolutely do. I soloed the dungeon sure I died a few times, but that was while learning the solo rhythm. Now that it's learned I could easily do it in much less time with less deaths, but I'm not going to because it's boring and repetitive to 5 phase the puppeteer and I don't need anything else from soloing it. I'm not going to do something I find boring and repetitive to prove a point. [/quote] No, you don't. You are so beneath the average skill marker for the solo clears, that you took over 4.5 hours to finish this dungeon with a "5 phase on Corrupted" and only a single wipe. By those parameters, as if we're going to entertain the idea you're good enough to do this lol, would mean you wouldn't have spent more than an hour and a half on what is highly regarded as the hardest dungeon fight to ever release. So you're going to sit here and tell me you took over 3 hours to beat the first two encounters when you're so good, you can 5 phase Corrupted? Nothing you say here adds up. It's already weird that people will pretend to be something they're not in real life to internet strangers, but in a video game? You're trying to scam a guy that has done the SF in a fourth of the time you took [b]twice[/b], as if I'm not gonna know the level of bull you're trying to pull with this "I'm actually really good, but my time doesn't reflect that" There is a reason why you don't clear content in this game. You need to get your ego in check and stop. Just because you have the ability to make up this fantasy at whim doesn't mean it's reality now. [quote]More assumptions. I don't want to 4 phase the boss by plinking it with an auto rifle. I want the best in class of all legendary heavy weapon types to be able to viably 4 phase. And I'm ignoring the blatant insults and assumptions you're making about my comfort zone because they add nothing to this.[/quote] More evidence that you're only ego posting, cause only arrogant people who are trying to defend themselves emotionally in a logical debate shut down as hard as you are doing right now. Shame and pride often mix so well together, so it's good that you at least subconsciously know when to back down on certain points you know you can't BS [quote]Assumptions again. No cheese in any flawless runs I did, just testing out builds in different activities. I have plenty of merit to speak on solo dungeons, not caring about flawless doesn't take away from being a decent player.[/quote] Nice, you even ignored the fact that you don't have any worthwhile SF experience to speak on the game. You don't clear SF because you lack the skill ceiling to do it, not because you don't care about it. No matter how much you say you can, you really can't and you won't lol. Because of that, don't ever bring up the notion that dungeons are just repetitive and free. Just because some elite streamers and raiders feel that way, doesn't mean you can adopt it through the "argument of authority" fallacy. [quote] And dude. You completely misread my comment. I had 1 wipe to puppeteer specifically. Not the whole dungeon. Just because you misunderstood and just assumed the worst doesn't mean I lied. I had a few deaths to the servitor while I tweaked my load out, a few trying to rush the jumping puzzle because I don't care about flawless, and one to puppeteer because I shot a panel through a dreg and learned the hard way not to use piercing rounds. You telling someone else to learn to navigate their ego while yours drives you to assume you understand my entire psyche from like 3 comments is diabolical work. [/quote] As already mentioned earlier, none of this adds up to the 4.5 hour and 8 deaths run. You're desperately inventing a new run that went better than it actually did because you realize your BS isn't going to fly unless you take away some of the difficulties you actually faced to hold this weird arrogant stance of yours. Lying to yourself is such a bad habit to proport, get some help. [quote] Look pal. This conversation isn't going anywhere and half of your points are just thinly veiled insults or armchair psychology, and half the rest are based on assumptions. I'm walking away now. But by all means, go ahead and leave another reply for me to not read.[/quote] You're absolutely going to read this, your ego isn't going to let you walk away from this and might be back if you lack the ability to let me get the final word on you. But that's good that you're at least, backing down enough to leave it than continue your nonsense. All in all, you are what you are: an arrogant, disrespectful player that lacks the skill to clear the real challenges, so you whine and beg for the game you can't beat to be easier. It's even more funny how you're gonna say you don't look up builds or mechanics, but you are trying to ignorantly copy Gladd's idea to scale dungeons like plagiarizing a high school English essay. Truly sad and pathetic of you.

Because it's already easy enough. You've completed it solo, congrats, your opinion holds a gram of weight. If your spending that many damage phases, skill issue. If you could just slap a risk runner on and burn the final boss with a heavy gl with no regard to any sense of self preservation then it's not even remotely a challenge. Handicapping us to a exotic heavy for actual damage does alot to build crafting for survivability. It would turn exotic armor during boss fights to just slap on whatever heals you best.