Destiny players are the weirdest people I've ever met.

Everyone wants their stuff first and in a game like destiny that means the fundamentals get left behind. My farming buddy almost hit 1310 and when he does I know that won’t run pinnacles anymore so it’ll be me and lfg for the rest and this is someone I played with since the beta of d1. Can I blame him for being further than me in the power grind and then wanting to farm other activities even though previously we were side by side? Not really I often think, there’s so much time needed to get what you want and often doesn’t align with other players. Trials is a big example of this, people doing whatever they can to get their loot regardless of how it affects the community etc. Same with bounties, to level a lot more xp you need the bounties but they are more efficient to do solo and thus the game modes get diluted with players in them for many different reasons.

Literally zero incentive to try and win though 🤷🏼‍♂️

I hate the players that are not afk... And they stay back and try to throw bullets into enemies while standing guard in a safe location. Or stand in the middle waiting to invade and act like they are carrying the game. There are so many factors due to a players mind that ruin the experience. So honestly, it is not the players to blame. I truly hate the connections that ruin the experience. I hate that there is no consistent power levels with a player due to an evolving enemy power level. Rng enemy power levels if you will. If you are winning, the enemies hit harder and take more bullets to kill. If you are losing, they get easier. Or randomly just do either. All going on with the lag the infects this game. There are so many things to hate this game mode for... that seeing afk players or players that give up is understandable more than looked down upon for me. A rocket launcher that can mark targets in a split second and hunt them down while hiding behind cover or an lmg that is better than any sniper in the game with unlimited ammo is infuriating. A titan exotic that melts the prime evil in a matter of two seconds is not balanced: The rng for desirable loot is beyond stupid and the players time is not respected. I go in. I give it my all... but when you grind endlessly and get bad rng and deal with everything above... then to most players.. the incentive to care declines. Do not blame the players. Blame the game mode and bungies inability to be on to top of their game and respecting the players that truly try to enjoy the game. You know what happens when a player finally gets the reward they want in any playlist with bad rng and have to overly grind said mode? They stop playing it. PvP, pve, and PvP/pve modes. You know what happens when the game continuously wastes a players time? The same thing. Bungie wants this to be a live service game... except for when it comes to maintaining and balancing it. ^ this is why so many players get salty and then in their mind, create their negative points of view. Usually blaming and fighting each other rather than looking at the root of the issue.

Thought you were gonna talk about people here on the forums at first, then it was just about gambit, very disappointed but I do feel ya

AFK players are an issue because Bungie insists on routing players through content that they don't enjoy playing either for the sake of progression.....or in order to get loot that can't be gotten anywhere. else. I presume its bad in Gambit right now, because Gambit is the only place to get the newest hand cannon....and the drop rate is painfully low. So when you do that to playes, they push back and try to find ways to break your game in order to make it reward their time in a more reasonable way. I don't agree with people doing it....but I understand why the feel compelled to do it. No one likes feeling controlled, and Bungie has a bad habit of trying to micro-manage and orchestrate everything.

Heres my rule when it comes to Gambit, especially when I solo queue: I go in, I play, and what happens, happens. I dont sweat the results, I just play. Sometimes cool stuff happens, sometimes I get rolled. But its ok. I dont log on thinking "yeah I wanna play some [b]gambit[/b]" but then the thought of playing it doesnt fill me with existential dread either 😁

People playing solo tend to forget they're playing on a fireTEAM and should try to support that team's efforts as much as they can. It's a big ask though, apparently. I fight to the bloody end, win or lose, whether with my clan or blueberries.

AFK players are a known issue since Destiny 2 "The Curse of Osiris" for what I can remember, when many players used to AFK in PvP just to get the Mile Stone. But I'm afraid there is no much one can do about it. I've never heard of a system that can recognize an AFK player or a Player that just does nothing of concrete during an Activity.