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Edited by Clegholdfast:
2/26/2021 5:26:49 PM
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Bring back primary gun play in pvp
Out 5 games I was killed by a primary 4 times... I counted. Please show some love to your pvp community and take a serious look at how to balance special weapons and abilities. Shotguns/stasis specifically.
PS: the sniper nerf was awesome. Much more balanced now. It’s a lot more satisfying to get that headshot now.
Lates TWAB (2/25/21) is a good start
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What really? Half the times I die it’s usually from a 120 handcannon lol
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3 RepliesShotgun should be 2 tap. Grenade launchers are fine because they require a really good hit to ohk. Fusions are fine. Snipers are better this season. Really, shotguns are the outlier.
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3 RepliesEdited by Muffincup: 2/27/2021 11:43:33 PMA few fixes necessary - zero freezing for all stasis. Every single thing, 100% of weapons and abilities in PvP need a readily available counter to them. You can't counter being frozen solid, its just free kills which is bs for PvP. Why is there such imbalance in PvP? Because they have wittled counter weapons and abilities down so badly that its miserable. Counters, like vorpal weapon for example should be a basic thing, not a special perk. - Super spams. Nobody should be able to crutch multiple supers in a Crucible match. It should be only one per person. Make people think how they're going to use it instead of just giving it to them every couple of minutes, that's specifically why Mayhem exists. Regular Crucible shouldn't be similar to Mayhem at all. - shotguns should only be able to kill one shot at point blank. Thats it. They're stupid powerful so they need HEAVY limitations to equalize that power so they don't overrun everything. - 120 hand cannon damage limits need to be brought down, they reach way too far - Special drops should be rare, no abilities should grant anything. Special weapons are special because they are for specialized circumstances i.e. grenade launchers, for killing or damaging groups or those behind cover. They should be utilized as such, and should never be able to be a PvP main due to their power. - No two tap weapons at all. Everything should be a good gunfight because the game is so heavily about gunplay. As guardians have shields, they should take no less than like 1.5 seconds to kill. Give us the thrill of a good gunfight. -Skill based matchmaking. All time k/d calculations, not k/d per match. Go to the next bracket, maybe every .5 raise or decline in k/d. Just these few things would drastically improve Crucible.
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Make a fighting lion only playlist.
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Yep everyone just mains special weapons and freezing!!
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Agreed. People being able to “main” a special weapon is ridiculous. It’s called a primary for a reason. And yes the range on 120’s need nerfed.
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it never left.
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Most of my kills are with a hc.
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1 ReplyStop scavengers from working so it’s only 1 special ammo per pickup instead of 3 and you only spawn with 1 special ammo shot depending on the weapon, fixed just like that.
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Yeah, way too much special ammo going around.
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They need to make special ammo scarce again, like they eventually did in D1. Players shouldn't be able to just run around the Crucible using a shotgun with seemingly infinite ammo.
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We all know there's too much special running rampant, the stats even dbow as much but many out there say its perfectly fine so it surely must be. Better be careful or they'll blame you for the state of D1 special ammo economy and D2 Y1, despite all of that happening because Bungie tried several times to nudge people away from aping solely with special and using is as a secondary option, but people wouldn't take the hint... Thats why things went the way they did, not because people complained. We all know complaints aren't the only thing that makes the change, Bungie look at the numbers. Swords got nerfed this season in PvE, do you think that was because people were complaining that they were too strong? No. Its because "Swords are being overused".
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1 ReplyI am primarily a primary player whose primary outcome is getting killed.
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2 Repliesjust make it so nobody starts with special ammo and make it so only one special ammo brick spawns per match. or make it so special ammo is removed from all permanent pvp modes and make it only usable in rotator modes like Clash/Mayhem
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I run double primary for all content in this game. Especially for PvP. It's annoying/frustrating when the 3-4 blueberries on the bottom with 0.08 eff have their precious shotgun equipped, but never got a kill with it.... Yeah...those blueberries that feed the other team with kills [b]and[/b] ammo....grrr.. But....I know....I know...can't expect others to play like me....or show any type of self awareness.
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Amen bro. I’d love to see a gun on gun meta with a splash of secondary and space magic instead of the other way around. Stasis is hilariously broken and shotguns are so crutched on I can’t even bring myself to use one. There’s just no fun in it. I’ll be in a rare primary fight and by the time I get the kill I’m already dead from an ape closing the gap and one shot cheesing me over and over. If you don’t use the easy button and shotguns you’re at a huge disadvantage which shows their lack of knowledge how to properly balance a PvP game. 💠✌🏽
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1 ReplyIB bounties requiring pulse rifles and sub machines meant the majority of time...I got killed by messenger today.
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Bruh did you read th state of the game 2021
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Bring back big maps. Make people actually swap weapons around based on the situation. I wanna look at a map and be like: okay smg and shotgun or sniper and auto.
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I ran double primaries last night and it worked quite well for me in IB. But that’s not for everyone. 🤷🏼♂️ Probably do the same tonight when I play...
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1 ReplyHow am I supposed to get a kill if I can’t crutch on my special?
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13 RepliesEdited by Swiftlock: 2/25/2021 4:19:29 PMWe already tried this. It was called D2 Year One. It was 24/7 teamshooting and everyone hated it. Even with lower TTK's, the same thing would happen today if PvP was focused mainly on primaries. Specials are a necessary evil since they allow players to have a better chance of tackling groups on their own. The REAL issue is the maps. They all encourage aggression and corner camping with Stasis, hand cannons and shotguns. We need more open spaces and wide lanes where scouts and pulses are favored.
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oh look. A sniper complaining shotguns.
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If it’s not a 120 it’s a shotgun.
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2 RepliesTOTALLY AGREE!! REVERSE SUNSETTING!! STOP SUNSETTING!!STOP SUNSETTING!!! I STILL USE BLAST FURNACE, BYGONES , MOUNTAIN TOP, CLAWS OF THE WOLF!!!
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If you’re getting aped (without stasis), it’s on you. Shotguns take advantage of bad position. When I’m playing top tier players I only get 1-2 shotgun kills a game because they play their primary out of my range. If you’re on Xbox I could help you with some movement stuff to help counter the apes, I am an ape so I know what works lol.
