I know my erintil got used a ton this weekend on my titan. Went from 600 kills tracked to over a 1000.
Hate to see it nerfed since its only go a 5% usage in crucible(meaning not everyone can use one and be any good with it). Honestly the problem is scavenger perk is busted. Special dropping everywhere and im getting 3 rounds per pick up. There's no way i should have 10-14 fusion rounds on me damn near the whole round because..
1. Im never gonna use primary weapon ever.
2. Shotgun apes got just as much ammo as me and he's not his using primary either.
So I'll keep vooping people that rush me with their shotgun and watch them vanish into nothing.
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I have god roll erentil and wizened. Erentil is little better so I never use it. Wizened these days for bounties or aping. I don’t wait for shotgunners with wizened, I ape with it myself because.. that’s what you can do with these fusions. You can run, see radar, jump or blink while precharge and you won’t miss with Icarus grip. Easiest double and triple kills you can get with anything outside heavy. I don’t use them because pre-charge firing is not fun (to me) at all. There is zero feel using them.. reason why I don’t like any Star Wars ’pew-pew’ game either. And sorry, I don’t use shotguns at all. Or recluse.
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The problem is not the ammo economy. The problem is it can consistently one shot. It is the most forgiving fusion rifle, with negligible charge time with backup plan. There’s simply just too much going for high impact fusion rifles. They need a range nerf, an accuracy nerf, or a grossly increased charge time. There’s simply too many positives to the gun type, and not enough drawbacks.
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[quote]The problem is not the ammo economy. The problem is it can consistently one shot. It is the most forgiving fusion rifle, with negligible charge time with backup plan. There’s simply just too much going for high impact fusion rifles. They need a range nerf, an accuracy nerf, or a grossly increased charge time. There’s simply too many positives to the gun type, and not enough drawbacks.[/quote] Specials are supposed to consistently one shot, that’s why they are special.
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Specials are meant to one shot in their intended ranges, fusions aren't the only special weapon to have an abundance of special ammo, they just are more effective with more ammo
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keywords "in their intended ranges" anywhere from 0-70 meters is not fusion rifles intended range. fusions should be dominant in the 12-35 meter range, further than that should be grenade launchers because travel time, limited magazines, arc adjustments(ignoring mtn top), and dodgeability, are their downside, and sniper rifles which are easily flinched and require precision. i know 70 meters requires either a stationary or straight line moving target. but with the right rolls erentills are still dominating the 35-50 meter ranges without a sweat.
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[quote]keywords "in their intended ranges" anywhere from 0-70 meters is not fusion rifles intended range. fusions should be dominant in the 12-35 meter range, further than that should be grenade launchers because travel time, limited magazines, arc adjustments(ignoring mtn top), and dodgeability, are their downside, and sniper rifles which are easily flinched and require precision. i know 70 meters requires either a stationary or straight line moving target. but with the right rolls erentills are still dominating the 35-50 meter ranges without a sweat.[/quote] It doesn’t get consistent kills outside of 30m with any roll. Stop parroting memes.
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not parotting, ive done it, its happened to me, there are mountains of video evidence.
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[quote]not parotting, ive done it, its happened to me, there are mountains of video evidence.[/quote] I’m sick of people posting a YouTube video with a private match against someone standing still, or a match that’s heavily edited to remove all the deaths and really only showcases kills in under 30ms against a team of apes that never stop aping. None of those mountains do videos show anyone getting a consistent 30+m kill against an active player. Just people standing still at heavy waiting for it to spawn.
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you on xbox? we can hop in a private match and you can be as active as you want, i'll still voop that ass at 45 meters no problem. and before you take it the wrong way this isnt some "oh 1v1 me bro" this is me, offering to prove my point, you say something doesnt happen consistently, i know it does and i can prove it, no stationary bs, no editing, just an average god rolled erentil in the hands of an average kd player.
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[quote]you on xbox? we can hop in a private match and you can be as active as you want, i'll still voop that ass at 45 meters no problem. and before you take it the wrong way this isnt some "oh 1v1 me bro" this is me, offering to prove my point, you say something doesnt happen consistently, i know it does and i can prove it, no stationary bs, no editing, just an average god rolled erentil in the hands of an average kd player.[/quote] You can’t prove it because it’s not true. I’ve played in crucible every month since the changes in Forsaken that made players who don’t want to improve think it’s broken. It’s not broken. I’ve been playing with and against it for over a year. I know it’s strengths and weaknesses. I’m not going to waste my time beating you in a 1v1, I already know I’m right.
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Except i know you are either wrong or know its true and denying it for ulterior reasons. Also it has nothing to do with win or lose, simply wether or not i can consistently voop an active enemy at 30+ meters, its not an ego thing. We'll call it an experiment, make it all sciencey 'n shit.
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[quote]Except i know you are either wrong or know its true and denying it for ulterior reasons. Also it has nothing to do with win or lose, simply wether or not i can consistently voop an active enemy at 30+ meters, its not an ego thing. We'll call it an experiment, make it all sciencey 'n shit.[/quote] Yeah I have over a year of experiments I know what it’s capable of and not capable of. The data is in, and the gun is fine. People just regurgitate the opinions that benefit their skill level, and then exaggerate to try and make it seem far more problematic than it actually is. Erentil is barely even used.
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smells like -blam!- in here
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[quote]smells like -blam!- in here[/quote] Lol, you were just being a “1v1 me bro” bro. I gave you the attention you crave, now here is your participation trophy🏆.
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If you can show me a clip of an erentil even reaching 60 meters with an OHK I'll shut up.
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If it was so forgiving then why has it only got a 5% usage in crucible and sits a #70 as most used weapon in crucible? Only ones complaining are shotgun apes or highly aggressive recluse users. Only thing they can't rush or ape is a vooper cause they get smoked frequently and end up here making nerf fusion posts.
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[quote]If it was so forgiving then why has it only got a 5% usage in crucible and sits a #70 as most used weapon in crucible? Only ones complaining are shotgun apes or highly aggressive recluse users. Only thing they can't rush or ape is a vooper cause they get smoked frequently and end up here making nerf fusion posts.[/quote] Exactly
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Sup bruh. I think the last time you chimed in on a comment was d1 and i believe it was over saladins vigil. Lol. Funny how things change but yet stay the same.
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[quote]Sup bruh. I think the last time you chimed in on a comment was d1 and i believe it was over saladins vigil. Lol. Funny how things change but yet stay the same.[/quote] Ha, I remember those days. I guess all the bad players who meme on weapons they don’t want to figure out how to beat didn’t stop playing either.
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Yup. Been funny last few days. I can scan thru every nerf erintil post. Look at the haters profile and boom there it is. Dust rock blues or a recluse sitting on their main. Laughable
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[quote]Yup. Been funny last few days. I can scan thru every nerf erintil post. Look at the haters profile and boom there it is. Dust rock blues or a recluse sitting on their main. Laughable[/quote] I stopped looking at their loadouts last month or two when every poster had the exact same shot range loadout. Exactly.
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#70 for a special weapon is pretty high. Most used? Obviously not, but 5% usage in a pool of literally hundreds of weapons.. pretty high. I don’t use shotguns or recluse, and yet I think high impacts need tuning. Sooooo??
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Negative. 69 other weapons being picked over it. 5%usage is tiny. Why? Cause not everyone can use it effectively or those numbers would be way higher. Gun is just fine and needs no nerfing. Adjust your play style not my gun.
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‘Not everyone can use it.’ That’s hilarious. It’s literally the easiest thing to use next to a shotgun. It’s incredibly forgiving as you need to hit what, 4/7 bolts for a kill? So you can miss almost half your shot and still get a kill. Cmon, man... I’d like to see where you’re pulling your stats from too.
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Gaurdian.gg for usage stats. If it was as easy as a shotgun then why are shotguns used more...way more? Ran into plenty of people trying to voop properly this weekend didn't come across very many good voopers.