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10/20/2019 10:04:43 PM
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Erentil barely kills over 25m, especially on console. you probably watched that 60m kill video in a private match with the guy standing still 😂
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on console you can get that 60m really easily
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No you don’t.
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yes, you really can. given the right roll you can do it with ease
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[quote]yes, you really can. given the right roll you can do it with ease[/quote] That’s not true just a meme bad players regurgitate.
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Изменено (iBlakRabbit_lV): 10/22/2019 12:09:31 PMWell i know i hit people from further out than 30m. Especially when im using it as if its my only weapon equipped like every other erentil user does.
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[quote]Well i know i hit people from further out than 30m. Especially when im using it as if its my only weapon equipped like every other erentil user does.[/quote] You can hit them, and not get a 1HK. That’s not a problem.
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If its not killing for you at that range, then there's a problem with your role. There's a REASON people dont switch back to their primary when they have erentil.
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[quote]If its not killing for you at that range, then there's a problem with your role. There's a REASON people dont switch back to their primary when they have erentil.[/quote] The REASON is you get easy kills while people rush you all game in the open. The other reason is because it’s a special weapon 1HK. You can run around with any special only for a full game.
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And because it works a number of ranges. It doesn't have real weakness unless youre using close a corner where you can be shotgunned. Although, backup gets rid of that problem so again, it works at a number of ranges. What I'd consider long range is pulse rifle range cuz i have no reason fighting beyond that point. It can and will ohk at a pulse range, with or without assistance from teammates.
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[quote]And because it works a number of ranges. It doesn't have real weakness unless youre using close a corner where you can be shotgunned. Although, backup gets rid of that problem so again, it works at a number of ranges. What I'd consider long range is pulse rifle range cuz i have no reason fighting beyond that point. It can and will ohk at a pulse range, with or without assistance from teammates.[/quote] But fusions don’t 1HK at PR range. They are medium range special weapons that require skill to get kills at the longer ranges. 30m or less is their consistent range. Pulses can handle that easy. Last week I could get all the PR kills for that step of the scout quest against players on the fusion step easily.
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Изменено (iBlakRabbit_lV): 10/22/2019 5:52:49 PMYou are able to ohk pulses to as far away as 40m. You dont need "skill" to kill people from that far away with erentil (high impacts in general). All you need is a basic understanding of how to shoot a fusion. What can only assume is that you're a respectable person when using a fusion. The type of person who would use a fusion when they need to and switch back to whatever primary you'd have on. Some people dont play like that tho. Theyd keep the fusion out because it can a kill ,as i said, as far out as pulse range. Essentially covering all engagement ranges. If there weren't people who center their gameplay around fusions (and if there was back up plan on legendary fusions) then they wouldnt be an issue. I always tell the people play with complain "shotgun, this. Shotgun, that." Theyre a necessary evil to keep fusions in line. If fusion and snipers were the only option, then thered just be more fusions. And as far as the quest step from last week goes [spoiler]Well they were using a normal fusion for a jotunn job. [/spoiler]
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Изменено (TattooedOni): 10/22/2019 6:27:27 PM[quote]You are able to ohk pulses to as far away as 40m. You dont need "skill" to kill people from that far away with erentil (high impacts in general). All you need is a basic understanding of how to shoot a fusion. What can only assume is that you're a respectable person when using a fusion. The type of person who would use a fusion when they need to and switch back to whatever primary you'd have on. Some people dont play like that tho. Theyd keep the fusion out because it can a kill ,as i said, as far out as pulse range. Essentially covering all engagement ranges. If there weren't people who center their gameplay around fusions (and if there was back up plan on legendary fusions) then they wouldnt be an issue. I always tell the people play with complain "shotgun, this. Shotgun, that." Theyre a necessary evil to keep fusions in line. If fusion and snipers were the only option, then thered just be more fusions. And as far as the quest step from last week goes [spoiler]Well they were using a normal fusion for a jotunn job. [/spoiler][/quote] 1. I can one hit kill a pulse from 10 meters with a fusion. 2. All you need to not die to a fusion at 40m is to not stand still out of cover. 3. They keep it out because people run at you out of cover all game. Then go to the forums and beg for nerfs to protect them from the bogey man. 4. Shotguns don’t counter fusions. Fusions are the only thing “keeping shotguns in check” right now and there are still way more players that use a shotgun than a fusion in the game. 5. Wizened Rebuke and Erentil are easier to obtain than Jotuun at this point. Most people were also running MIDA or Jade Rabbit in the kinetic to do Randy’s quest.
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Well seeing as we're going to be needlessly technical, I'll be a bit more specific for you. 1. Yes you can kill a someone whose using a pulse at 10m. Anything and everything can be killed in 10m. 2. When i say, "pulse range", i mean the max range a pulse can fire from before damage fall off. Dont see why id even have to say this. 3. The counter for any shotgun is distance. Some shotguns have more reach than others i/e chaperone. 4. They dont keep fusions out because people run at them. They keep fusions out because its easy to kill people with 5. While no one should stand still in any situation. People stand still at 40m when they are facing a fusion (erentil and such) because they dont EXPECT to be one shot from that far away. Which is exactly what happens. 6. Being mapped like this isnt just limited to max range erentils (and other high impact fusions). I dont even see the point in having some much on a fusion thatll kill someone from so far away anyways.
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[quote]Well seeing as we're going to be needlessly technical, I'll be a bit more specific for you. 1. Yes you can kill a someone whose using a pulse at 10m. Anything and everything can be killed in 10m. 2. When i say, "pulse range", i mean the max range a pulse can fire from before damage fall off. Dont see why id even have to say this. 3. The counter for any shotgun is distance. Some shotguns have more reach than others i/e chaperone. 4. They dont keep fusions out because people run at them. They keep fusions out because its easy to kill people with 5. While no one should stand still in any situation. People stand still at 40m when they are facing a fusion (erentil and such) because they dont EXPECT to be one shot from that far away. Which is exactly what happens. 6. Being mapped like this isnt just limited to max range erentils (and other high impact fusions). I dont even see the point in having some much on a fusion thatll kill someone from so far away anyways.[/quote] 1. Which is why your point is moot. 2. A pulse can beat an Erentil easily because it has more range. 3. No shotgun has more range than a fusion, which is why it’s used as a counter to shotguns the most used special (OHK) weapon in the crucible 4. They are easy to kill people because people still run at you out of cover or stand still waiting for heavy to spawn. 5. You should expect to die if you stand still and fire at anything. Snipers can kill you from further than 40m. The game isn’t just Erentil vs pulse 1v1s. 6. It’s the medium range OHK special weapon type between snipers and shotguns. That’s why it has a reliable OHK in medium ranges.
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ive gotten kills at that range before, its not just some meme
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[quote]ive gotten kills at that range before, its not just some meme[/quote] It is, some body put out an YouTube video 6 months ago of it being possible to do in a private match against a stationary target on PC, and people still just parrot that nonsense today because it’s a meme. Please feel free to post your gameplay getting 60m unassisted kills with a fusion. I’ll wait.
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you're gonna have to give me some time then
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[quote]you're gonna have to give me some time then[/quote] No problem, I imagine it’s going to take a very long time for you to record that.
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I've just gotta hit up crucible again. And no, this was not happening because of low light in iron banana
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[quote]I've just gotta hit up crucible again. And no, this was not happening because of low light in iron banana[/quote] Cool, prove it.
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I've personally erased people up to the 45-50 meter range on console with just a range mw, under pressure, rangefinder roll. I've been vooped from that range, and the tap the trigger rolls can do even nastier things. even without tap the trigger you can just aim at their feet and not even worry about controlling recoil up to about the 30 meter range, after there its just fire at their feet and hold down the stick. not really that hard.
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[quote]I've personally erased people up to the 45-50 meter range on console with just a range mw, under pressure, rangefinder roll. I've been vooped from that range, and the tap the trigger rolls can do even nastier things. even without tap the trigger you can just aim at their feet and not even worry about controlling recoil up to about the 30 meter range, after there its just fire at their feet and hold down the stick. not really that hard.[/quote] No you haven’t. You cleaned up an assisted kill.
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I beg to differ from the stuff i saw in comp today
