The other super exotics are still pretty good and worth using. Skull is no longer fun or powerful enough to use. Killing six or more low level enemies ought to grant at least half Super back. Killing high level enemies should give bonus super on top of that. I’d say a max of up to 80% back would be a good compromise. Nerfs really do hurt aspects of the game.
Edit: To clarify, I tested the Pheonix Protocol and the Rigs for Hunter which are the most popular aside from the Skull. Those seemed to still grant a good amount of energy back. In short they are still fun to use. I haven’t tested the Titan arms so I’m ignorant of the performance on those. Sorry if I implied I had tested everything. Anyway I’m having fun with opulence and hope all of you are as well! I do miss the Skull for top tree Voidlock though. It was fun while it lasted :) Maybe they can give it a little love in the future!
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Skull got hit so hard that you're actually better off running enhanced ashes to assets + Contraverse Hold and Top Tree Voidwalker Overcharged Vortex Grenades. Kind of sucks.
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Anyone who thinks that what they did to skull is ok is a Bungie dik rider plain n simple....It gives nothing extra for boss vs major vs rank n file. That's just wrong! They've made nova bomb unusable AGAIN!! The super isn't as effective either on top of the exotic itself, I don't care who says I'm wrong I used it everyday so I know the difference! They nerfed the super too and didn't even bother to say anything bc ppl were pissed already. The really messed up part is EVERYONE was angry bout these nerfs but now that a lot of them see that some are still decent like Rigs n PP they aren't saying much...It's crazy that all the bungie apologists are swaying people to the "oh,it's ok bc they needed the nerf" bs. Yeah skull was really strong but only after they boosted the super bc skull has been the same since vanilla but now it's trash and that's not ok bc one-time use supers that can miss or even kill the user need to be strong n need exotics that help you to get them back faster. They've killed the solo players fun by doing these nerfs. They always nerf to the ground then hope ppl are ok with it. Mag howl, skull, shards, ursa and Blade Barrage need to be taken back up a good bit. It's ridiculous that they decide what players should be using by ground checking everything strong! Lunas howl was hard to get and now its a joke! Skull n Ursa n Shards are now a joke as well. If your a solo player or not a "Streamer God" then fuk u is pretty much bungies opinion from wat i see! Things you work hard to get or collect the perfect roll shouldn't be able to be trashed when they feel like it or enough people cry period. That says "fuk ur time spent" to me. And if it is obtainable by all players it shouldn't be like this!
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What makes it even worse is they just sold the dang ornament for skull and they then Nerf it to Oblivion.. oh I seen there selling the ornament for shards, wtf #bungie
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The super return exotics in general were nerfed to oblivion. There’s no reason to even use them anymore
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I agree 100%. This shards, ursa, gwisn all got hit way too hard.
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My dude ur right I agree Vote to bump
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Изменено (Corrick II): 6/18/2019 11:01:05 PMI’m already too depressed with the Shards nerf to even try the Skull now and see how bad it is. Obsidian Mind was my jam back in the day and Skull, regardless of how funky it looked, brought that back. I couldn’t stand to see it diminished now.
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Изменено (La Blue Girl): 6/18/2019 7:14:56 PMMag howl, gwisin, galanor, orpheus,ursa furiosa, whisper of the worm would like a word with you.
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Изменено (drew012278): 6/18/2019 6:51:04 PMWelcome to the new Bungie where power is not a thing. They are only appealing to the hard core that want expertly shoot their way to victory no space magic needed......Literally the magic is gone in destiny. P.S. it’s not just the skull that got hit hard. So did the destiny player base......hope they enjoy the reskin of the moon in September with old foes not even bothering to reskin them they just rename them now nightmares......because that’s all Bungie can afford to do
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Изменено (AcidRain5889): 6/19/2019 5:39:32 PMyes I agree 100%
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Its sad seeing Bungie literally remove fun from the game. All the more reason to not play it.
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Ursa says hello.
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I know pve is more for the power fantasy aspect but I’m of the mindset that if you can just super everything all day every day with no help it makes Endgame encounters harder to balance. Takes some challenge out of it. Only good argument is T3 reckoning with blackout and brawler. That gotta go
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I once found a skull in my postbox.
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no one exotic should give you 50%+ super back
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Orpheus Rig users: “First time?”
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Solution: Bad Juju I imagine that they needed to adjust those Exotics because they needed to balance it out. I mean think about it ... with Bad Juju giving back Supers plus those Exotics? There’s also Light Reactor, Pump Action, and Remote Connection. So many ways to get your super back. So no need to worry. Just wait for Bad Juju to come out. Nice post, Have nice day. 👍🙂
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I think a good compromise for skull nerf would be for them to activate the super regen on hits as well as kills. Might make the vortex novabomb worth using. Maybe cap super regen to 40% so that it’s not always available, but is easier to achieve than it is currently. Shards could use a cap at 35%, but make it more common to reach that cap even on weaker foes.
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We neutered zero hour with it. Seems fine.
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Orpheus grant full supers still if you use them right. I’ve used them in heroic witches ritual public events and gotten my super back several times. Of course other people are using supers too so I’m getting it back twice as much. Tip: have 2 hunters run Orpheus rigs in a raid and have them tether the same enemies. They spawn double orbs.
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Orpheus rigs aren't too great anymore either
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I once found a skull buried in my back garden.
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It’s not just skull
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The titan gauntlets before the nerf were already bad. You could block somebodies novabomb then only get back like 20 or so percent back. Its awful. Then with the nerf its even worse.
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No it needed to be to broken