Been running Ursa and skull and they're not that bad. When used properly, they're fine. Not as strong as the used to be. But still strong

No they're not, and if you think their purpose was to get Mechaneer Trick Sleeves used more you must be some kind of illiterate, because they explained in painstaking detail that the problem wasn't that the super refreshing exotics was they got picked too often, the problem was they were completely negating their ability to design encounters based around anything other than dumb extra mechanics, because crowds of enemies literally could not possibly be a threat to anyone.