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3/25/2019 6:28:18 PM
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REMOVE. CORES. FROM INFUSION. COSTS.

Seriously. Adding more ways to get Cores doesn't fix the problem. If anything it makes the problem worse by adding more things for the more casual players (Aka, the ones who don't have many cores) more things to do and pulls them away from their normal questing and missions and increasing their power level. Having increased the glimmer AND planetary materials need for infusion ON TOP OF adding Masterwork Cores to the mix has made the infusion system horrible. I can't infuse the weapons and armor i like to wear because I'm out or low on cores and I'm forced to wear a stupid looking armor set and weapons that are horrible. You say you're listening, but you don't care about what we're ACTUALLY saying. We, as players, know the real problem. And we know the REAL solution. And that is to remove cores from infusion costs and have them ONLY be used for MASTERWORKING WEAPONS AND ARMOR. That was their intended use from the start, and it should stay that way.

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  • Bungie should start a program for the less fortunate guardian where they take a few cores from higher class guardians and give to the poor we can call it corefair

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    • All of you arguing in favor of this busted ass infusion system are simply and obviously arguing in favor of other players having less than you do - not because they don't play enough, but because YOU play WAY TOO MUCH... You've all said a hundred times, 'it's not hard, I have 1.6 million cores, it's not a problem for me.' Jump to 'wastedondestiny.com' to find out you've sunk 36k hours into D2 since Forsaken dropped... Shocking... You don't like this system because it makes you more careful or gives you 'impactful choices'. If you did, then you could handicap YOURSELF instead of insisting that a game company force you to. If you actually preferred being limited to 17 cores/week, you could easily make that happen yourself by deleting your surplus. So, that's CLEARLY not what you like about the system. You like it because 'fsck casuals.' By supporting this ridiculous design choice, you tell brand new players they're not welcome here because they don't play the game enough. Because the proven reaction to this broken system by new players is to quit playing and go buy a game that isn't a full-time job... I know most of you who would proudly yell 'fsck casuals' will be happy to agree that that's why you like this infusion system. My problem is that until now, Bungie tended to ignore assholes like you in favor of their average player. You know, the one that is saving up to buy the Division 2 and leave for good... Removing cores from infusion affects you in literally ZERO ways. For some reason, you're the jerk who prefers that the office stay at 85+ degrees. At least you could put on a jacket and be comfortable. But no, fsck casuals...

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      • Division 2 rocks

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        • The only players struggling with amassing cores are the causuals that play a couple hours a week. It's sad really they have to whine and complain on forums over missing out on end game content because A:they can't be assed, or B: they use all the cores prior to reaching max light.

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          • Some creatures of the Hive (Bungie) strain against the Will of Oryx (the player base). Alak-Hul (Luke Smith), the Darkblade (Director), is one such. Long ago he fomented rebellion against the King (Guardians) and attempted to take his mantle. Alak-Hul (Luke Smith) failed, and now awaits the “mercy” of the Hive (Destiny community). Given the chance, the Darkblade (Director) will step in to take Oryx's (Bungie’s) crown. We (Player base) must not allow another Prince (Luke Smith) to rise.

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          • You Guys... Whats the Deal with Enhancement Cores?

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          • Remove cores from infusion because -blam!- the hardcore players who no life the game. Cores aren't needed for infusion, so save the meaningful argument for somebody who cares... I use one toon, I don't need cores to infuse dupes. Cores for infusion impact players who use more than one toon not the casual player. If cores aren't the problem, delete your stockpile. The only thing you guys are defending is your status. -blam!- this broken system. I got to 650 WITHOUT cores last season and if I played this season, I'd get to 700 WITHOUT cores and without looking like a trash bag.

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          • Enhancement votes for infusing aren't a problem, where they become a problem is master works ... These need a massive cut

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            • People still defend this busted system. Stopped playing d2 cause cores will never be removed from infusion, just a waste of time to do shit I don’t wanna constantly do 24/7

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            • Изменено (Contorts): 3/26/2019 7:02:47 PM
              lmao just get more cores 4Head

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              • [quote]Seriously. Adding more ways to get Cores doesn't fix the problem. If anything it makes the problem worse by adding more things for the more casual players (Aka, the ones who don't have many cores) more things to do and pulls them away from their normal questing and missions and increasing their power level. Having increased the glimmer AND planetary materials need for infusion ON TOP OF adding Masterwork Cores to the mix has made the infusion system horrible. I can't infuse the weapons and armor i like to wear because I'm out or low on cores and I'm forced to wear a stupid looking armor set and weapons that are horrible. You say you're listening, but you don't care about what we're ACTUALLY saying. We, as players, know the real problem. And we know the REAL solution. And that is to remove cores from infusion costs and have them ONLY be used for MASTERWORKING WEAPONS AND ARMOR. That was their intended use from the start, and it should stay that way.[/quote] I honestly think neither enhancement cores or planetary materials should be used for infusing. It was definitely better when it was just the shards.

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              • Getting masterwork armour with good perks is an end game chase & grind, it adds another level of complexity that gives it the elements of mmos etc. If bungie just gave everybody who plays an hour a day the same level of gear as someone who grinds for it, then it ruins the experience and players will have nothing left to do. If your only issue is because you don’t like how your guardian looks then why should they give you the best (your favourite) gear at the highest power level? You’re already a high enough light to play 90% of the game with ease so why are you crying? Also if you can’t use any other weapons and gear before reaching 700 AND THEN using those few cores to infuse your favourite gear then you’re missing out. Go play fortnite or some other trash if you’re only concerned about how your character looks.

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              • I’m just gonna post this in everyone of these, It’ll be a nice fix and I think people can get behind it. A good fix would be to remove them from infusion, make them only for masterworking, re-rolling the masterwork, re-roll specific perks. How about even allow you to enhance blue gear to legendary quality giving an additional perk, and increased stats; some of the blue gear is pretty nice.

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                • Изменено (treetop30): 3/26/2019 9:18:06 AM
                  I figure I should at least add my voice to the mix as I would like to see the enhancement cores done away with as well. I'm usually running around 40-60 light levels lower than I actually am, because I don't want to infuse anything. Wear that scatter horn helmet or rock my sweet looking forged mechanist helm? It's bad enough my ghost is the main protagonist voice of the game and I'm just his side kick, at least let me look like the bad ass hero I want to be. I'll freely admit that I hate farming and would rather spend my time working towards goals. Getting better at crucible, helping friends get the whisper, improving in a raid, learning a new raid. I love experimenting with crazy gear builds I've seen on you tube. Let me play around with that new weapon I just got that's not meta but so fun, and most importantly prioritize allowing me to meet new fun people I can enjoy playing this game with. I would love to do that at the light level I'm currently at, but for my play style I simply run out of cores. I fundamentally disagree that enhancement cores make my infusion choices more meaningful, they just make me need to visit spider more often. They necessitate me to grind more on things I don't want to spend my time on and ultimately I've been playing less because I'm not enjoying where the game decides my play time is to be spent. Let me decide where I enjoy spending my time. This is not incentivizing me to play more, or grind more. For my personal play style/ enjoyment, it is sucking the fun out of playing. I keep coming back for stuff like the blind well, EP, the reckoning, thorn quest, last word quest, gambit, crucible, and all these I play with friends. You know how many of my friends want to spend time going to spider and grinding for enhancement cores? 0, zilch, nadda, none! I know it will be the same with the new system you're about to implement. It's not fun. I respectfully suggest abandoning systems that are implemented to limit/narrow player choice, like enhancement cores, and spend more time on what activities or grinds are fun to do with others. How can we make it easier, in game please, to invite others to play/ chat/ message without going through 4-5 different menus. These games are always better when played with friends. Please focus your efforts on expanding choice, build variety, player customization and let me play that power fantasy hero game. I want to feel bad ass in the way I look, the choices I can make and the weapons I wield. I enjoy D2 and am waiting for the day when I can just jump in and have fun with the grinds/ play approach I want to do without feeling overly punished for doing so.

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                  • Do you even understand the game your complaining about? Where we are at now going from 650 to 700 you should ONLY be infusing duplicate items that only cost glimmer or the one or two exotics you truly love (hence it being an impactful decision when infusing your gear). Once you get to 700 this is where the infusion end game happens. But Nitro, what about that full set of Prodigal Armor I use? My titan looks awesome wearing this and I really would like to infuse this so I don't look like a space hobo. The time will come when you can play dress up again once you reach that 700 light. If your infusing every piece of new gear into old gear you will run out of cores fast. My rule of thumb is to infuse once I am 15 levels above my previous level on my favorite weapons and gear. The next time I will infuse my Skull fort is when I reach an overall level of 690. My favorite weapons were only infused after I reached 675. This is how I play. This is my opinion. Make Destiny yours while understanding the rules of the world of which you play in.

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                    • Bungie's laughing at you right now.

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                    • YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YESYES YES YES YES YES YES YES How many people have to say they don't like enhancement cores being a part of infusion for them remove it? So far this latest major update has brought us a lot of changes no one wanted or asked for... mainly nerfs on some of the most used and liked weapons in the game (whisper and sleeper) and non of the changes EVERYONE is asking for. REMOVE CORES FROM INFUSION.

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                    • Изменено (Ahabb43): 3/26/2019 8:50:34 PM
                      The only meaningful thing they can do with cores for "Enhancing" would be to use them to unlock mod slots, go back to the old way of unlocking perks on the guns, or use cores to unlock level caps in each season for older gear. There is no reason to keep them for basic infusion. This would encourage playing with uncapped new gear(if they make enough) and make your choice of weapons to bring forward the tough choice. The unlock would be a one time cost each season. After unlock, the icon would switch to the new season's icon and you can infuse again and without core cost. Imagine enhancing your weapons with cores for mod slots. Each weapon/armor could have a green, blue, purple tier mod slot to prevent stacking OP mods. Exotics could have a final catalyst unlock that adds to the weapon's power instead of the slight bump to stats. Instead of just extra range or stability, you could unlock explosive rounds on Sweet Business, jumping seekers on Colony, or hold the reload button to change Cold Heart's element.

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                    • Too bad bungle already did their generic copy and paste replies for the week, so they will likely not respond until this is buried in the forums

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                    • Изменено (Xc_LuxZenRa): 3/26/2019 3:11:01 PM
                      [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251450868?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]Edited Version: Those that Prefer No Emoji's~Follow Me.[/url] Bungie: 🤭We Hear you! Bungie: 🥳based on your feedback🥳 we will Remove Scrapper Bounties and add Gunsmith Bounties to earn more cores. Community:😐😑 IT WON'T BE ENOUGH! THIS IS NOT A FIX!😤😡🤬 Bungie: 🧐We Hear you!..🖕Ahem: Our hope(Just Leave it alone🧟‍♂️ Guardians)is that this increased access and control😈over Enhancement Core acquisition will help improve the balance of materials being earned vs. materials being used.🤥🤫 Community:🗣 Bungie, 🗣🗣BUNgie, BUNGIE!!🗣🗣🗣 don't you get it??? [b]“If enhancement cores are removed from infusion, the problem will be ________.” [/b]🙏🙏🙏🤨🤨😡 Bungie: 🙄...infusion won’t be as impactful. 🕴🏼We keep a close eye on the amount of infusion materials being earned versus how many are being used and will continue to make adjustments as needed.” Community: 💩🤮🤯🤯🤯😫🙅‍♀️🙅‍♂️😡😤 1)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418699?sort=0&page=0]Wow Even the Forbes Guy Thinks Your TWAB Solution Is Terrible[/url] 2)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418262?sort=0&page=0]It's a game/hobby, not a job.[/url] 3)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251417963?sort=0&page=0]Paul Tassi said it perfectly![/url] 4) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418573?sort=0&page=0]FORBES:[/url] 5)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251463085?sort=0&page=0] Bungie. Listen. To. Your. Community.[/url] 6)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418097?sort=0&page=0]At this point, Bungie is begging us to boycott the game[/url] 7)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251412308?sort=0&page=0]The TWABs (Solution) To Enhancement Cores is Unacceptable[/url] 8)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251422793?sort=0&page=0]Can we get rid of stupid enhancement cores?[/url] 9) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251452307?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]Play a Game Where The Devs Listen[/url] 10)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251411799?sort=0&page=0]Enahancement core changes show bungie doesn't care about our feedback.[/url] 11)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251428261?sort=0&page=0]The Core Poll[/url] 12) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251414088?sort=0&page=0]#CoresRemoveChoice and a Proposing a Boycott?[/url] 13) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251456236?sort=0&page=0]Why do changes take so long?[/url] 14) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251464650?sort=0&page=0]I'm waiting for Enhancement Cores to show up in bundle packages[/url] 15)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251419308?sort=0&page=0]Let's show bungie they need to remove master cores or change to only one per infushion please up vote![/url] 16)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251410810?sort=0&page=0]#Remove enhancement cores[/url] 17) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251464433?sort=0&page=0]#Remove enhancement cores from infusing[/url] 18)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251436487?sort=0&page=0]#Remove enhancement cores from infusing bungie[/url] 19)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251416524?sort=0&page=0]Remove Infusion Cores simply to gain back some customer goodwill[/url] 20) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251453120?sort=0&page=0]REMOVE. CORES. FROM INFUSION. COSTS.[/url] 21)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418537?sort=0&page=0]You should start listening to your community rather than say your listening[/url] 22)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251411913?sort=0&page=0]THE INVESTMENT TEAM IS TONE DEAF![/url] 23)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251419439?sort=0&page=0]Ditch the cores![/url] 24)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251438928?sort=0&page=0]The Infusion Problem Will Get Worse Each Season[/url] 25)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251416147?sort=0&page=0]The enhancement core bounties are no fix[/url] 26) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251427662?sort=0&page=0]Why replace scrapper bounties when you can have both?[/url] 27) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418315?sort=0&page=0]The amount of ways you get Enhancement Cores is not the problem. It's how wasteful using them for infusion is.[/url] 28)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251411497?sort=0&page=0]Are you happy with the announced changes regarding Enhancement Cores next season?[/url] 29) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251422336?sort=0&page=0]Is Bungie Not Gonna Address 95% Of The Communities Concern?[/url] 30) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251345297?sort=0&page=0]The leveling is still bad[/url] 31)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251436069?sort=0&page=0]Congrats Bungie![/url] 32) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418266?sort=0&page=0]Thank you Bungie Dev Team! I finally made a "meaningful choice"[/url] 33) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251439614?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]Masterwork cores need to return. #coresremovechoice[/url] 34) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251464519?sort=0&page=0]Last screams of the missing neighbours[/url] 35) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418636?sort=0&page=0]Tired of my characters looking like patch work dolls for the sake of light level[/url] 36)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251412287?sort=0&page=0]Bungie doesn’t respect player time investment[/url] 37) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251461764?sort=0&page=0]Bungie doesn't read any feedbacks written in other languages.[/url] 38)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418128?sort=0&page=0]Bungie out of touch[/url] 39)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251413867?sort=0&page=0]Strengthen Your Core (from a players perspective)[/url] 40)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251441917?sort=0&page=0]A unique perspective on cores and infusing[/url] 41)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418132?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=0]Letter to Devs -[/url] 42) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251450868?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]A Message to the Bungie Team! -Click Me-[/url] 43) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251441735?sort=0&page=0]Don’t give up on destiny[/url] 44)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251463732?sort=0&page=0] Make your case for KEEPING enhancement cores as part of INFUSION.[/url] 45) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251434856?sort=0&page=0]Open invitation to any Bungie developers that would like to have a discussion with the forum community on investment and progression[/url] Bungie: 😣😬🤐🤐🤐 Thinking:*😏 We told em in the TWAB the changes won't come until next season😆. that gives us more than enough time to come up with another Non-solution. 😎GG Team...GG.* Bungie: 👮‍♂️Guardians, guardians...👮‍♀️Settle Down. 🕴🏼You know Us.🕴🏼 Remember the Good old 🕹Halo Days(We Sure Don't)!? 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                      • I. Dont. Know. What. To. Make. For. Dinner.

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                        • There are SO MANY options on getting ECs every week. Quit infusing all of your gear the second you go up 3 light levels you plebs. And guess what kiddos. If you have a god roll 620 tiger spite you like using, but you get a trash tiger spite at 670. YOU CAN INFUSE THE TRASH TIGER SPITE FOR JUST A FEW THOUSAND GLIMMER OH MY GOD I KNOW. MIND BLOWN. I KNOW RITE AMIRITEORAMIRITE?

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                          just a game - 3/27/2024 7:11:49 AM

                          992 hrs Destiny ONE 378 hrs Destiny TWO all right... like i said - just PLAY the game you lazy pricks

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                          • Bungo says no! You should be feel a sense of accomplishment about infusing your stuff, that is the end game. Feelings over fun.

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                          • I’m starting to wonder if Bungie coded itself into a corner? Are cores an bases for the entire infusion system that it will take a large fix that will not happen until a new DLC?

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                          • I'm guessing cores are "baked into the cake" for infusions and are not going to be removed any time soon. Enhancement cores are deeply ingrained in the in-game economy as a currency. To remove them now for infusions might take human resources that just aren't available right now with updates coming for the current season, along with the June expansion and a possible/I'm hoping expansion coming in September. Let's remember, with its split from Activision (which we all cheered) Bungie does not have the same resources it once did. I do hope that Bungie looks at the currency needed for infusions and makes a change in the hoped for September expansion. But I will say, which will probably trigger some people, that the current outcry over enhancement cores is a bit over the top. And yeah, you have certain opportunistic Youtubers using the issue as click-bait.

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