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9/20/2017 4:09:43 PM
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Stupid Argument - D1 had three years to get good, give D2 time.
If you are one of the people who keep saying give D2 time because D1 wasn't good at launch either then you need to seriously stop and consider what you are saying because it makes you sound like an idiot.
D2 should not be this bad at launch BECAUSE of how much they supposedly learned from the first game.
D2 is not a fresh new game, it is a direct continuation of D1 and they cut more content from the destiny world then they added over three years...
We should have had everything we had in the first game with tweaks and updates for story AND THEN they should have added new content on top of that.
We should be exploring 10+ planets by now, an updated Prison of Elders with bad guys from ALL factions, old story areas and strikes should have been updated with baddies who moved in.
[b][u]Also, we may have lost our lockers and gear but since EVERYTHING is built with a schematic that is downloaded into a computer why the hell are ALL of the Y1 rewards not in the loot pool of things that can drop?[/u][/b]
When it comes to PVP we had more options to PVP on Y1 D1 than we do now...and they were better options.
How is it that with how popular sparrow racing was we don't have that as a permanent addition yet?
Since I first started reading about Destiny even before it's release it was hyped as being a MMO-Like shooter. But we never got a persistent world and whoever designed D2 seems to have wanted to make it a shooter and remove all of the RPG elements.
I'm not mad these days, I've been burned by games over and over. But I am more disappointed with D2 than I have been with anything else.
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30 отв.Изменено (Vercingetorix07): 9/21/2017 12:03:10 PM[b]The Destiny FRANCHISE had 3 years to improve[/b] - and for a time, it did improve. By the end of Destiny 1, we had a myriad of endgame activities that all lead to endgame gear. Then, it was seemingly discarded in D2. The best raid [i]implementation[/i], WotM, was the golden standard: the right length, loot drop rate, token system, challenge, and difficulty curve for new players: A healthy mixture of combat and platforming. Now armed with this knowledge and feedback, Bungie had everything they needed to make a fantastic sequel. They failed. Why? They were lazy and sought to trickle back old (already coded) features into Destiny 2 over time when the player base dwindled, especially in the Spring/Summer. - No more Heroic Strike Playlist, Strike Scoring, or Private Matches. - Less efficient rewards in strikes compared to Heroic Events. - Added customization, but restricted it to one-time use. - Homogenized PvE and PvP at the expense of endgame gear distinction. - Added Raid matchmaking, but designed a Raid that punishes fireteams with inexperienced players harshly AND offers very little reward for the time invested. - Lessened the penalty of dying in Nightfall, but removed the challenging combat aspect of the activity with a timer that demands cheese, excessive rushing, and exploits. - Added loot-boosting consumables and NF-tier chests, but restricted loot farming with hidden lockouts that cancel out glimmer/time investment. The list goes on...
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21 отв.Things that have been in D1 and are now missing in D2: - Record books - grimoire score - progress rider - faction levels - "my legend" page on Bungie.net - choice on pvp game modes - private games - sparrow racing - guns diversity - armor diversity all of that (and more ) is gone.. and there is not a single reason NOT to include this in D2. plus: - no new character customisation - very small variety in armor and weapons - no sort options for mods - "notifications" ALL over the screen even in PvP matches - no real "story" telling, just narration of what happens.. the entire background story of the consul , how he has been cast out by emperor calus and how he met ghal and why ghal is an outcast is simply Missing in the game. etc.. what happened to the speaker? he was still on the ship noone came to look for him? the entire "city" population is "missing".. there is no information what happened to them and there is no narration about what happened with the city .. the reef? the iron temple? the cabal would not attack those two since there simply is nothing to gain there.. same with lighthouse in mercury .. the golden suns etc etc etc .. all those information is simply missing.. and nowhere to be seen or read.. - lore is not in game.. apart from scannable items with random bits and pieces.. PUT THEM IN GAME IN A LORE SCREEN ! so we can check what we missed and what read it in context.. etc. all in all... again.. the base line is covered, but there is nothing over the first one step.
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2 отв.if D2 was a continuation o would still be able to go to the moon mars dreadnaught and the like. its actually a new game. none of d1 content is available in d2.
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Folk are complaining about this game but I bet that they are still playing it. If the problems with the game are too much for people then, simply put, they stop playing and uninstall the game from their console. But to those people I say that they should understand that they are the smallest fraction from among millions of people out there playing Destiny 2. Simply put, you will not missed, in fact I doubt Bungie will not even notice you are gone. [b]JvK B)[/b]
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Folk are complaining about this game but I bet that they are still playing it. If the problems with the game are too much for people then, simply put, they stop playing and uninstall the game from their console. But to those people I say that they should understand that they are the smallest fraction from among millions of people out there playing Destiny 2. Simply put, you will not missed, in fact I doubt Bungie will not even notice you are gone. [b]JvK B)[/b]
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Reading some of these comments has me thinking people read the title and then scrolled furiously down to comment without reading what you said.
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Your argument is stupid af. You do realize it's year 4 at the beginning of D2 right. No way in hell should the game be this bad after 4 years. You are defending something that can't be defended which is utterly stupid.
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But was Destiny 1 actually good at the end of the third year?
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Totally agree with the pvp section, but i think thats asking a little much to have [b][u]all[/u][/b] our old content in addition to new stuff. I cant name 1 sequel that does what you've asked. Im sorry but saying a sequal should be that much bigger than its original is greedy and spoiled.
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Thankyou!!! This is year 4 of destiny, not year 1 again.
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Its too late for me. They removed my subclass and watered down all the perks and customization. They would have to revise the whole perk system to make me happy.
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Give it time? Yes Bungie had 3 years to make d1 good why not take what they have learned during d1 to make d2 just as good if even better? No whit d2 they just took 1 steps forward and 2 steps back
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1 ответI love this argument. "It took Destiny 1 three years to get good." If Destiny 2 is going to take three years to get good, WHY ARE WE PLAYING IT NOW? Take it off the shelves, put it back into development for three years, then release it WHEN it's good. And the people that agree with this process, YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM. They only do this because you're dumb enough to keep throwing money at this massacre hoping that will fix it. And developers eat it up. Because they forgot a long time ago that if their players aren't happy, they're out of a job. They need to be reminded of this, that WE control their fate as a company, not the other way around.
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Изменено (BraddyBo): 9/23/2017 1:08:11 AMY1 destiny was perfect, started going downhill when ttk released. Y3 destiny pvp is worse than D2. Bungie caters to the scrubs and crybabies, pvp can only get worse not better which is a shame since 99% of pvp on other games only get better after launch.
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D2 is year 4 so it shouldn't be so bad and we shouldn't have to give it time at all. It's a poor argument to compare this game to vanilla destiny. Games evolve and get better over time and don't take most of the best things about a game away. Oh except bungie that's right.
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It's Destiny 2 - 1.5 + .5 - .378 +.878 - 1 + 1 = 1.5 SO.... It's really DESTINY 1.5 version +\- nothing
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1 ответProud to not own Destiny 2.
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I think D2 is good now
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Flip side they had 3 years to learn from their mistakes which they did not.
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My wife and I were talking about this. And she made a good point. I think that because the community puts so much time and effort into the game, we take bad/ lazy development as a personal jab. Despite this, at the end of the day, bungie is a company looking to make money and they just choose to go the 'overhype the product to the sun and back then over promise the stuff you all wanted' it's literally the only way they could sell the game, because if they were up front about the real design we wouldn't buy it. "NOTHIN PERSONAL, KID". They are just a dishonest company, and they tried really hard to put on the "honest, down to earth, connected to the community" face last year by pushing deej out to a crowd of people who had been lied to and ignored.
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3 отв.Изменено (Sylok, The Defiled): 9/21/2017 3:09:11 PM
Sylok, The DefiledSYLOK, THE DEFILED - старое
Let's not place high expectations on the game. That's one of the major reasons why people get disappointed early in the game's release. Sure, you could argue that Bungie had 3 years before Destiny 2 which some people interpret as... "improvements could have been done and must have been implemented within the game's release." The process is not that easy if you think about all the planning, designing, coding, editing, etc. I can't hide the fact that the game has flaws, and any player could admit that. OP made good points about some of the negatives of the game... but that's it. Only focused on the negatives. You can't deny the fact that they have improved Destiny 2. With better knowledge, Bungie will continue to surprise and supply us with new content, new loot. The only factor we have to consider is TIME. We don't know what the future of Destiny 2 holds for us Guardians. Isn't that exciting enough? Think about it: If Bungie released EVERYTHING the game had to offer on Day One or Week One, wouldn't the community beg for more content either way? If a new Guardian gets all the events and activities from Destiny 1, unlocked and released for the first week of Destiny 2, wouldn't this new Guardian be lost and clueless? Give it a thought. Edit: OP, if you want us to CONSIDER that you and most people are arguing that the game is lacking content, please CONSIDER OTHERS who are optimistic about the game and not call us idiots for stating our opinions. -
great post I was actually OK with losing all of my gear and weapons after I thought about it for awhile because I was like "well, it makes sense that they wouldn't want me going into D2 with my 2000+ strange coins". But I figured that common sense would dictate that all or most of the D1 gear/weapons would reappear in this game. Nope. At least I have the piece of garbage Hard Light to remind me of the 3 years of fun I had in D1
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Bungie is like a bunch of scientists who discover the cure for cancer and decided at the last moment, to try and make cancer worse so the cure doesn't work.
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Soooo.. D2 had 4 years and we should give it more time.. good point :/
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2 отв.Thank god a reasonable person
