I made a post that picked up some steam a while ago. Check it out. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/213129889?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1

It should either be nonexistent or else they need to make the dammed reticle dynamic and actually reflect the size of the bullet's impact probability cone (edit: example: the way automatic weapons in games like Halo show the reticle expand the longer the weapon is fired). But if they keep bloom, they need to implement it for all weapons across the board. Or better yet, if Bungie wants players to slow down and aim, maybe make the recoil animation last until the sight picture settles on target again. That way you know when you're clear to take the next shot. It's one thing to nerf range or other weapons stats. It's quite another to change the way an entire class of weapon HANDLES, and HAS handled since beta.

Yes, and greg and weisnotski should be fired in the process.

bloom should not exist, flat out. I don't even use handcannons that much, but its BS that a gunfight might be lost on RNG alone.

Bloom shouldn't be a thing

Bloom should not be a thing. Accuracy should not be RNG based.

Biased poll. Can't blame bloom when he clearly spaces his shots. This game is a shooter and I shouldn't be punished by a game mechanic when I can line up my shots.

When I fire a Hand Cannon I want to fire a lethal weapon not shoot 1 of those trick guns in the amusement park. I'm Goin for kills not a Stuffed Unicorn

I agree it's annoying and could be removed, but only partially. I can definitely understand the frustration with inconsistency since Hand Cannons are seemingly the only primary archetype which use "bloom" vs. a weapon's physical stability to determine whether bullets land where aimed or not. It's what causes these "phantom bullets" we've all seen. I would support the removal of bloom, but only if that were replaced with a shorter damage fall-off for hand cannons. The results would ultimately be the same and would keep hand-cannons where they belong in the short-to-mid range. Hand Cannons should knock you out of your boots and be able to 3-tap at short range, but should require an extra shot to kill at extended ranges. Currently this is being handled via "bloom", which is frustrating, but if replaced with a shorter damage fall-off at least shots would land if your aim was true, but would not turn Hand Cannons back into a one-size-fits-all solution for any map. For reference, and for those who may not be familiar with how real-world guns perform. Short barrel weapons are not meant for accuracy at long ranges. Bloom is effectively a cone which expands as you get further from your target. The longer your barrel and slower your fire rate, the smaller this cone will be, and the more consistently you can land shots at longer ranges. Since Y2 balances were implemented Autos have the shortest effective range, as they should due to their natural instability caused by their high RoF. They are immediately followed by Hand Cannons, whose lack of long range accuracy is due to their short barrel and high single-shot recoil. Pulse rifles fall somewhere in the middle with better than average accuracy at extended ranges due to their longer barrels which is offset by some degree of recoil spreading each burst. I actually feel this is the one class which could still use some balance with high RoF (Grasp of Malok type) rifles getting a slight stability/damage adjustment to slightly reduce TTK at longer ranges, and slower RoF (Spare Change type) rifles getting a slight stability/damage adjustment to slightly increase TTK at longer ranges. Scouts have the lowest RoF of the long barreled rifles and therefore enjoy the best accuracy at longer ranges

Yes, rng hit detection is uncompetitive and bloom needs to go. Buff pulse damage and buff auto crit multiplier to compensate for hand cannons getting better.

Considering the fact that we now need a handcannon to drop with a god roll now so that it can still be competitive- this game is getting ridiculous.

Yes, non-existent, more damage fall-off to balance it.[spoiler]not my words, but i agree completely[/spoiler]

I don't care how far away they are. If I'm shooting directly at someone they should take damage for it. Idc if the damage is cut in half but it should still register.

Also, your poll doesn't seem very well designed. The categories suggest that bloom isn't functioning correctly when it in fact is. I agree that it can be frustrating and could use reworking, but the way the poll is set up, I would vote in the 2nd bar. Edit: the poll choices aren't mutually exclusive

Ever notice that in pve, your bullets seems to track on the the head? I've noticed that when I clearly missed a headshot (off to the left or right) I still get headshot damage. But it's the opposite in pvp. I just don't want to lose the pve mechanic.