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9/10/2022 1:48:29 PM
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Guardians are we the bad guys

So, disciples are strong dark wielders. Strand is dark power two. Is this a path leading us blindly towards being the new disciple?
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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 9/15/2022 7:29:24 PM
    Blindly? No. If that’s where you want to go? It can lead there. Guardians aren’t evil.

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      Erafracture
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      Listen to me, oh guardian mine… - old

      If you want, you can be evil. You need only listen to the whispers of the Witness, oh guardian mine…

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    • Edited by Ultra-3, the Young Wolf: 9/12/2022 8:16:11 AM
      While they certainly aren’t perfect, Guardians are not inherently evil. We are simply fighting for the survival of humanity and it’s allies. The forces of the Witness want us dead, so of course we aren’t going to just let them do that. Although I do think that at least at one point (specifically during Shadowkeep and perhaps most of Beyond Light) the Witness wanted to make us it’s next Disciple. I assume it now has different plans since we learned how to use Stasis without being corrupted.

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    • Nah we ain’t evil.

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      Foux du fafa - 9/19/2022 4:44:21 AM

      We aren't bad or good, we just are, do what we gotta do to stay alive

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    • holy -blam!- this thread has the dumbest takes ive seen all day

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      • With how much we kill, kinda feels like it.

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      • They’re Darkness users working to destroy existence. We’re Darkness (and Light) users working to protect existence. That being said: in War, both sides believe they’re the good guys.

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      • Edited by Peregrine Grievance: 9/11/2022 4:56:59 PM
        Maybe

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      • That's been the themed of recent seasons Every faction (except the vex and taken kinda?) Are not as pure evil as we seen Fallen are now scavenger after being betrayed by the light (which is 100% the traveler fault on why fallen are on our solar system ) Cabals are conqueror yes their action can be seen as mindless violence but what's the difference between them and our own history with Roman Empire ? Hive were supposed to be touched by light just to be lied to by the darkness and goes on a war they are been lied about I love how this light vs dark story is becoming more and more grey

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      • My ghost woke me up in Dec. 2014. Bunch of 2 and 4 armed freaks started shooting at me. Grabbed a gun and shot back. I've been shooting back ever since. 2.1 million have regretted it so far.

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        • Yes. The Traveler is PoS. A genocidal PoS. A galactic Genocidal PoS.

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          • Good, bad, I’m the guy with the paracausal space gun.

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            • Edited by BOSSNONO254: 9/10/2022 6:10:27 PM
              In all honesty, the guardians are in fact the bad guys. Take for instance when they tried to infiltrate the moon and execute an offensive to take it back from the hive. Thousands of guardians were killed because of this. Then once Crota was slain. Oryx came to avenge his son, only to fall to the same demise. But not only did he fall, almost his entire lineage fell. The guardians continued this onslaught with many other beings. We act unknowingly and so willingly to the travelers own agenda. Which is to eradicate the darkness and surge the universes with light. But with this, we are murdering those who may not have deserved it in the first place So in all honesty, the guardians are the bane of a civilizations own existence. Taking out entire militias or armies on the travelers behalf. So the real question is. Are we good, are we bad, or are we simultaneously both to achieve one ultimate goal? I am actually hoping there will be a twist at the end. Where the traveler reveals it’s true nature. That it is the extinction and fall of countless of civilizations. It has done it before with the darkness, leaving worlds once blessed by light to fend for themselves, only to perish. So In all honesty, I actually pity the darkness. Because it’s sole agenda is to show no mercy towards an entity that has caused so much chaos. And that is the traveler/light.

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              • Guardians aren't saints by any means (not even Saint-14 himself), but I wouldn't call ourselves the bad guys. It's been well established now that Light isn't inherently good and Dark isn't inherently bad; they are tools shaped by their wielders. Warlords and the Lucent Hive are great examples of the Light being used selfishly and maliciously, while our Guardian is proof that Darkness can be used selflessly and benevolently.

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              • Honestly I don't think that we are the bad guys at all. Also the strand is (if memory serves) described as the strings that make up the fabric of reality. We don't actually know if it is another gift from the darkness. It could honestly just be us continuing to be omnipotent space magic wielders. Personally I'm thinking it's something more along the lines of us being powerful enough to mess with reality now instead of just time shenanigans

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              • Nope

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              • The light and dark are fundamentals of the universe which are neither good nor bad. Based off your statement, you could argue that we are bad because we use weapons and the enemies also use weapons Or The hive and fallen are good because the traveler chose them.

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              • There really are no good or bad guys. That's where the storyline is ultimately leading.

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                • You’d have to do some real mental gymnastics to paint guardians as a whole as bad guys.

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                • Immortal space magicians that kill anyone who disagrees, got some red flags on the possible bad guy outcome.

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                • Maybe. If we ever want this war to end, we’re probably going to have to get rid of the traveler

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                  • One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter…

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                  • Yup

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                  • Nope

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