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9/8/2022 10:16:46 PM
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Arc warlock supers suck

The arc supers for the warlock are so bad it’s absurd. For both PvE AND PvP. On the PvE side, neither super will live up to the damage of the arc supers for the Titan or hunter. Like it’s not even close. Stormtrance could be good for add-clear but why would I use my super for that when something as simple as trinity ghoul w/ the catalyst can do the exact same thing? As for PvP, sometimes I swear that I have less hp when I’m Stormtrance then I do when I’m running around normally. Today I was even one-shot by a fusion rifle from an absurd distance. Even further away than the Stormtrance super can even reach with it’s lightning. Stormtrance is supposed to be a roaming super but most of the time I find myself just using it as a shutdown super with its new intrinsic landfall perk. And even then, it doesn’t even shut down a lot of roaming supers. These supers need some attention for them to be viable in any activity.

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  • Edited by Monkey: 9/9/2022 5:05:51 PM
    omg stormtrance against any champion even when its stunned or any mini-boss or normal boss is completely useless.. Once again the warlocks gets screwed when it comes to their supers..horrible Awesome class for nade and melee builds but thats where it stops

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    • In pve, the beam of death needs to refund more super energy when you cancel it early. Using it for one second , then cancel and lose 90% of your energy is just wrong for that super. Needs to recharge back faster to be viable (more). I think it used to do this but got nerfed because of pvp. For pve , it needs to be back to what it was.

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    • Yep and so does solar stasis and void now. Get the point yet?? Not 1 streamer that mains warlocks and any time we had a good set they cried like lil whiney -blam!- and got it nerfed. Its best to just delete the damn class all together at this point. It is uncompetitive

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      • Warlock supers as a whole suck save well. Call it whatever but it sucks

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        • All roaming supers suck on warlock besides Nova warp and even saying that is a stretch

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          • Warlocks suck in pvp. Obsolete compared to the others.

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            • Storm Trance and Arcstaff are both pretty weak supers. At least Storm Trance has Landfall and Arcstaff can block some stuff.

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            • Chaos reach is surprisingly good for clearing room even on master difficulty, and can usually kill 1 or multiple champions if you stun them in a line. It’s weird because stormtrance is supposed to be add clear, but chaos reach is just far better at it and you aren’t in your super for as long.

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              • When your in arc trance your name icon should be removed and be make your character half way invisible to its harder to see you

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              • Amplified is just dumb

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                • Oh and for the idiots that reapond with some bs tour doing it wrong... A f off B how about you put that small brain response with some facts

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                  • A cool rework to Chaos Reach would be a kamehameha like gohan vs cell in DBZ. While performing Chaos Reach, if you press you super again you deplete all of you super energy on a wider more stronger Chaos Reach, but it’s a quick flash. That way you can have both and add clear super and a champion/boss killer super. Geomags would be rework as skull/shards, were hits would grant you super back and give dr while performing the super.

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                    • Edited by Soul_Eater_42: 9/10/2022 3:51:16 AM
                      Yep. Chaos Reach is so bad in PvE without Geomags that I've resorted to using Ager's Scepter with the Catalyst as my Super. I can do so much more damage by feeding that Exotic my Super energy, and still have a lot of Super energy left by the time I either kill a yellow bar enemy, or run out of ammo.

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                    • You're doing it wrong.

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                    • In pve perhaps it's a bit weak, in PvP that's a skill issue you're having buddy.

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                    • For real I was running chaos reach in IB and it's hitting for 64 per tick.That plus the low damage resist (and the slow look sensitivity and the lack of mobility and the difficulty seeing where you're aiming and the long casting animation) makes it super hard to get more than 1 kill.

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                    • Error Code Weasel You make some valid points and I agree that eververse must be removed from this game but, Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather, he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

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                    • Edited by chekin60: 9/9/2022 10:36:56 PM
                      [quote]The arc supers for the warlock are so bad it’s absurd. For both PvE AND PvP. On the PvE side, neither super will live up to the damage of the arc supers for the Titan or hunter. Like it’s not even close. Stormtrance could be good for add-clear but why would I use my super for that when something as simple as trinity ghoul w/ the catalyst can do the exact same thing? As for PvP, sometimes I swear that I have less hp when I’m Stormtrance then I do when I’m running around normally. Today I was even one-shot by a fusion rifle from an absurd distance. Even further away than the Stormtrance super can even reach with it’s lightning. Stormtrance is supposed to be a roaming super but most of the time I find myself just using it as a shutdown super with its new intrinsic landfall perk. And even then, it doesn’t even shut down a lot of roaming supers. These supers need some attention for them to be viable in any activity.[/quote] I had to quit using my Warlock in pvp and switched to Titan...so sad.

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                    • Arc warlock sucks in general Void warlock suck only thing that saves it is devour nothing Solar is only good for well nothing

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                      • Arc warlocks n general are terrible. Now that hunters and titans have all their new movmentment abilities only have solar

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                      • Stormtrance straight up sucks. I lose 50% of my super just accidentally teleporting around while I’m trying to chase people down in crucible. It’s such a slow moving super. It get much stronger before Arc 3.0

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                        Not to mention stormtrance has bullocks duration without crown because transendence is gone. Chaos reach still crutches on geomags but does the same damage as t crash although t crash does everything better. Chaos reach being a giant vulnerable beam in the sky with low dmg resist, not much dmg, and just plainly unworthy it as you use the exotic slot for it. This is a relative problem with other supers like t crash. They have to have an exotic to be worth using. Chaos reach does the same amount as t crash while t crash can spam heavy and is not as vulnerable. Chaos reach has to sit mid air, or behind cover where the boss can move and block you causing you to cancel and get almost no super energy back. The only thing is it has infinite range but that's it. Low dmg resist, easily shot down and hurt, takes forever to use for the same amount of damage as t crash, a one and done super, and cannot spam heavy. I mean arc has such pitiful supers there's not reason to use it over stasis or void. Sure ionic traces are nice but it takes more then one ability in higher level content to kill an enemy, making arcs builds completely useless. Not to mention the melee ability is a death sentence and the arc souls really don't do to much.

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                        • So I’m recently now maining Hunter coming from Titan. I put on Arc staff with Raiju’s Harness. (Whirlwind guard costs no energy + super lasts twice as long if you aren’t attacking). I can literally block all forms of damage done to me with guard, and if you are using chaos reach, I can just dodge constantly (also doesn’t cost me energy with Raiju’s harness) and avoid 90% of your damage. Meanwhile, your dodge/ blink costs a good bit of energy and your damage is lackluster for how much super it costs. The only thing you have that truly rivals other supers is landfall. But even then, Titans have that too and they can do it multiple times. Hunter and Titan Arc supers are OBJECTIVELY better. And now that I’m seeing just how broken Arc Staff hunter is, I find it hilarious whenever a Hunter complains on the forums that they need a buff. I only play Hunter in PvP these days.

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                        • I personally feel at least on pve the warlock supers do well. However, I will say they should at least buff the animation of the supers. While I think it works fine, Stormtrance doesn’t look very powerful. It looks like you are tickling someone with little lighting finger tips.

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