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9/8/2022 2:46:55 PM
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BS rng triumphs and red borders for seasonal seal

Title. The first time I was pissed off with RNG bosses you needed to kill to get the seal on leviathan, now craft every weapon of current season. Previous seasons we could focus red border with certain upgrade once per week at least. Now they removed that. So, if I dont spend ridiculous amount of time doing 1 extremely boring activity, doing it possibly 1000 times but not getting all red borders I need for the seal. I'm not even complaining about getting only weapons from pinnacle rewards where I need some armor pieces. Cant imagine myself buying RNGfall.

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  • Wait you can’t focus roll for guaranteed red boarders. Man I’m all up for playing. But with everything on offer the grind is becoming unrealistic and mountainous to keep up with. Destiny is becoming a full time job.

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    • Yo, just equip the seasonal weapons...don't have to be red borders. Go to enclave, craft ANY weapon. I recommend a garbage weapon that you won't use unless it's one you intend on keeping. Once shaped, look at your seal progress. You're welcome.

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      • It's rng in general. I've run the kings fall raid on all available 9 looted clears so far. I've had 1 deepsight drop per week (not counting the 1 purchased and 1 deepsight chest). Only 1 actual encounter dropping a deepsight per week. It's week 3, that means I've seen 3 total dropped over 9 looted full raid clears. In contrast, half my clan have already seen 10 or more and can craft 1-2 weapons from the raid. It's insulting to sit here and watch players get everything around you, including people I'm teaching for their first clear, and I have nothing to show for it. It's this problem that makes us want to stop playing. Bad luck every season.

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      • That's how they get more play time on this garbage game!

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        • Titles shouldn’t be rng based.

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        • Nah, if you can't put in the work, you don't deserve the title.

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        • Re: "iTs OnLy WeEk ThReE" So, the problem is the rate of acquisition is not something a reasonable person is going to complete. I, being entirely unreasonable, have been smashing into the wall, trying to get these weapons. So far, here's my experience: I've completed: 48 Ketchcrash Activities - 2x per, 3x weekly (once per character) 47 Expedition Activities with Plundered Weapon Map* - 3x per, 1x weekly (once per character) Star Chart Prestige 2, Rank 11 - 16x per reset I've received: 43 chances from Star Chart ranks (16x2+11) 123 chances from Ketchcrash - 96 from runs + 27 from weeklies 168 chances from Expedition - 141 from runs + 27 from weeklies 34 chances from random weapon focus - 6 per weapon, 204 total plundered energey gathered This makes 368 chances for red border weapon. To date, I have recieved: Scout - 5 Sidearm - 6 SMG - 3 Shotgun - 4 Machine Gun - 4 LFR - 5 Total: 27 27/386 = an anecdotally 7.3% chance at a red border weapon per "engagement" with seasonal activities that give a weapon. As RNG, YMMV. From another perspective, as far as seasonal triumphs go, I have completed 23 of 39 triumphs (excluding the 8 from general as unrelated to ketchcrash/expeditions). Of the 16 remaining: 1) 4 cannot be completed by anyone as of today due to time gating (Savior of the Seven Seas, With Full Sails, Semaphore Signals, Marking the Spot) 2) 2 I have purposely not completed due to umbral energy efficiency (Plundered Armor Focus, Plundered Weapon Focus) 3) 3 I have not completed because master ketchcrash does not look "fun", but could complete or make progress on (Flawless Boarding Party, Boarding School, Crash Course) 4) 1 I have not completed because requires a full fireteam to pay attention to mechanics (Stealth Check) The remaining 6? Multiple Fronts (63/250) - Champions in Expeditions, Robber Baron (35/50) - Ruffians, Salty Smith (4/6) - I was unaware of the "cheese" and accidentally got credit for LMG crafting Unburied Treasure (204/250) - Collect Umbral Energy, Crews Control (4/45) - First Mate, High Seas, High Spirits (111/150) - Emotes TL;DR - Anyone who is expecting to craft all the seasonal weapons and not working on this now is going to be doing this for the rest of the year. There are no upgrades to improve the experience (targeted focusing), only give more chances (random red border from 1 ketchcrash per week).

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          • I got all the triumphs for killing the miniboss's on leviathan in 1 day... because I knew what I was doing. You don't like the game, literally no one is forcing you to buy it. If people actually quit instead of threatening to quit, and player counts dropped, Bungie would be forced to make changes. That's not happening, so neither are the changes.

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          • I had dozens of treasure keys probably turned in 60 or so and got two red box weapons from Xur! All I want is the Bxr and wastelander and they just don’t drop! THIS GAME NEEDS RNG PROTECTION!!!

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              ninjas work for the deep state - old

              You can get the scallywag title without crafting the seasonal weapons

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            • NOpls You make some valid points and I agree that eververse must be removed from this game but, Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather, he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

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            • I mean i got hearts shadow first run and after 30runs i got another one , 1k used to be in one particular chest so also first try , got my 3rd vex after my 90th run and touch of malice after my second run , have done all raids multiple times and as of this day i still dont have eyes of tomorrow , or a posterity , a hezen vengeance with auto loading holster , a stormchaser with autoloading holster and vorpal , not a single zaouli's bane (i have all the weapons and armor for all classes , i even have touch of malice with catalyst)

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            • Everyone who says that it’s week 3: You are missing the point entirely.

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              • Just the crap that you have to do for probably one of the most boring activities ive done in D2..Expeditions Forcing people who want the seal to LFG to kill those ruffians is pure stupid..Bungie doesn't have a clue what to do with this game.

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              • Edited by Zoidberg: 9/8/2022 8:53:34 PM
                Once I get Iron lord gold, I'm out. This seasons red border grind is horrible. Opened 10 chest in expedition, ran 6 ketchcrash, grabbed 3 focused weapons and opened 7+ level up engrams. Not a single red border.

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                • No high stat armor focusing. No deepsight focusing. Boring Ketchcrash. Expeditions where you have to actively sabotage the mode to progress for your seal. This seasonal content sucks.

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                  • Edited by xbroggiex: 9/9/2022 1:51:21 PM
                    Problem is with being able to focus deepsights is that it just gets people to not engage with the seasonal content anymore after a certain point. Because why play Ketchcrash or Expedition when I can just save a few umbrals and spend 1 each week till I have all the weapons craftable? Its why Bungie instead has an upgrade that guarantees a deepsight per week from Ketchcrash, though knowing Bungie they will have scuffed it and it gives you world drop deepsights. Though the seasonal content does not go away till Lightfall releases so you have like 6 months to get those deepsights. Also, its only week 3.

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                    • Equip a new weapon in each slot given and craft the new void fusion rifle and it will pop the triumph. Look up cheese forever video

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                    • Ugh! after reading all the comments I consider myself lucky for not participating in this boring task. This is no fun. I can only relate with you guys.

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                    • I've been getting two or three red borders a week. I'm on par to get the Title, but this is hands down the dumbest achievement needed for a Seasonal Seal. Whoever thought of this should not be allowed to work again.

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                    • Is it worth the hassle anymore? I only ever wear Rivensbane, Shadow and Conqueror sometimes anyway.

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                    • I got 3 red box seasonal weapons first day, since then I have gotten zero. Thank goodness for Ebontis video showing how to complete the challenge without the pattern.

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                    • Not sure if this was patched yet... If you are just going for the title...equip pirate weapons, then go to the Enclave and craft ANY weapon. Once crafted you'll get credit towards the weapons you had equipped. Rinse and repeat until all six weapons are done.

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                      • Edited by magister1001: 9/9/2022 1:32:15 AM
                        There is a triumph to kill 250 champions in expedition. Unless I’m missing something where they are doing a bigger difficult for expedition later in the season that’s mainly ruffians. By the time you do that you will be in your grave anyway. I think there is an upgrade further on that guarantees a deep sight for first Ketcrash each week. Not sure if that is protected to only be on ones you don’t have or not but like with a lot of destiny waiting until later in the season to do stuff makes it way more efficient.

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                        • It was a problem last season this season made seasonal seal even worse and red border drop rates bungie seems to ingnore the feedback from last season about red borders not dropping

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                          • Dude, I need hunter legs for iron lord, 7 resets across 3 seasons, still no legs, 117 capes though. Modern warfare can't come soon enough

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