Swear to god, I spawn closer to the enemy team than I do my own team's spawn side.
Pushing the enemy team, look around me. I have 2 teammates beside me. I then aim, fire a few shots and reload. Suddenly my teammates have mysteriously vanished and I am in a 4 v 1. Sound familiar? I am describing every crucible match that ever was. But when I inevitably die, do I respawn next to my teammates? No, I spawn miles away. On my way back to my team, I get team shot by opponents. Again, describing every crucible match.
Spawn flips are far too aggressive, I will literally get spawned immediately into a gunfight because both teams share the same spawn for some Bungie reason I am too intelligent to understand.
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Spawn flips are totally the teams fault. You're not supposed to run from one end of the map to the other, no matter what game mode you're playing, but somehow it happens like clockwork in every single match. It's either that. or the enemy team got too deep into your territory. Battlefield Conquest players probably understand this concept more than your average deathmatch player, but even deathmatch modes should be a game of territory control. What Crucible needs is about half the maps replaced with maps of better design. It's mostly the D1 maps, but not all of them.
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5 RepliesAnd push for a pulse rifle nerf
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Or bigger maps that cant be traversed in 5 seconds of a brisk walk?
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What’s killing me this season is the absolute cowardice in pvp. Entire games are decided by what team is willing to push the zones. I absolutely hate the buff to 150 scouts and the overall buff to pulse forgiveness and range. Every game is “sit in the back of the map”. Unpopular opinion but pulses didn’t need a range buff and the 390s def didn’t need the forgiveness they got a year or so ago. The fastest killing primary shouldn’t get the farthest range and require a 80% crit ratio. The only reason they got buffed was to compete with hand cannons. And lord knows u can’t touch HCs. I love the sbmm but it’s becoming painfully obvious who KD farmed to get a positive KD. Cause they are afraid to get in an actual gun fight. With the way the meta is moving we NEED clash as a permanent playlist. Not an objective game mode that 50% of players decide to side in one spot, not move and ignore the objective cause it may hurt their KD.
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12 RepliesThe spawn issues are also because Bungle doesn't have properly tuned Regional Dedicated Host Servers and relies on halo era 2008ish Peer to Peer Networking. With Peer to Peer, when you spawn in the game thinks you or your opponents are "here", when they are actually "there", all due to lag. This is probably the worst one I have experienced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMcLSQebggc where we kill each other and then spawn in the exact same spot at the exact same time, except that they stepped forward and I didn't. Or these where I'm spawned basically in front of the enemy player: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DpzcO0Nnf0 Maybe Bungle could take the "passion" they have for Woke Social Causes and maybe, I don't know, invest it in the game to address these messy issues? And to the Fan Bois who always parrot Bungle's claim they can't do Dedicated Servers in the current game engine. For Honour shipped with peer to peer networking, but the fans revolted on the forums and the company listened and replaced it with Regional dedicated Host servers in mid game. So this is possible, if the company cares about the players game experience, wants us as repeat customers and has a management that listens. What's Bungles excuse?
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Edited by Gheleon wind: 9/6/2022 12:04:52 PMYeah your right it has nothing to do with sbmm. When you play at the higher skill gape they definitely not know to push spawns at a specific point. To take advantage of the 1/6 2/6 there creating.. it has everything to do with spawn point… whahaha lol. You should go watch cod champions ships they honestly cut on player off to spawn lock the other team at 1 point. And then it even if they are outnumber 3/4 they just makes sure that they bait and switch so they 4 players who are spawn trapped always have 1/2 players dead. Lol but not in destiny it’s all about the spawn location lol
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5 RepliesIt's probably a statistical outlier but I was once killed in mayhem 3 times by one nova bomb.
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Meatbaag"No" - A_dmg04 - old
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Bungie has failed at spawn points since 2001 😂
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2 RepliesMaps are too small for 6’s. Maybe if pvp went back to 4’s or even 5’s?
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Ha! Seems like this company can’t make good PvP experiences at all, let alone create better spawn points for an already broken game.
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I agree spawns are terrible
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2 RepliesToo many players on small maps. Not much else to do other than making new maps or having less players per match
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8 RepliesNot skill based. Ability based. Lol. Nothing about this pvp is skilled as long as you have over powered abilities to do the work for you lol.
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Been saying this
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I would rather have better lobby balancing
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3 RepliesHow about 6 stacks v singles. Needs to be fixed. Period.
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3 RepliesEdited by Helios2216: 9/4/2022 10:33:17 PMBad spawns are frustrating, I agree, an improvement would do wonders. However, I cannot agree with the forget SBMM part. PVP is so enjoyable this season I'm doing more pvp once bounties reset since there is no real reward for PVP. This is an anecdote, yes. But, I am certain there are others who share this sentiment because I read the antithetical in the previous seasons while lurking. Please, don't take 2 steps back like Warlock sub-classes except Void. good_PVP = better_spawns + SBMM; Imho, I could be wrong, but unlikely. Some will disagree. Edit: Just finished listening to Cross, I'll take a freelance control any day!
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How else are people going to get seventh columns, they know what they’re doing
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1 ReplyWanna see some CRAZY spawns? Go play rumble. That’s why I play the game mode so much, you get into situations where you just have to hit 100% of your headshots on multiple people to win. It helps with my flicks and fast thinking gameplay.
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Now we have SBMM, next we need to fix spawns, and then after that freelance on every mode, and then after that fix SBMM again It’s gonna get to that point. Just watch the pvp community continue to melt
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2 RepliesBetter spawns goes hand in hand with better maps, if you ask me.
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11 RepliesOr just revert to cbmm and everyone be happy
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Forget better Spawns, can we get map voting?
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One time I spawned literally right next to an enemy that spawned. Like within melee range. Obviously I proceeded to get team shot by a 2nd person and I died again