D2 PvP players have one mindset.
Run at each other with the latest and greatest cheese or shotgun.
There’s no tactical gameplay, no protecting a cap zone. And definitely no teamwork.
Bungie designs a good PvP map that goes against the same cheese on every other map and people cry foul and complain like children.
Adapt and learn. And maybe change your setup from the same old shotgun hand cannon meta that you never need to switch from.
PvP is in dire need of diversity in weapons, ability and maps to keep it fresh.
You can’t like or love everyone map. But you can learn how to play them.
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Edited by A_mo: 9/3/2022 9:16:43 PMI like disjunction but its definitely had some of the worst matches I've played this season. It can't really be blamed on the map if people drop out in the first 30-60 seconds. Once that happens its really hard to stay for 10 minutes of that yourself. Its definitely been a "stomp or get stomped" map so far and those kinds of matches feel worse when its also SBMM on top of it a lot of the time.
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Map is garbage. Super ez to abuse spawn points.
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Then they should fix the spawns. That doesn't make a whole map garbage. You cannot call an entire thing garbage if 1 aspect of it sucks. That'd make most humans like yourself garbage aswell.
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Its badly designed map which makes it ez to spawn trap. You can literally sit at middle of the left lane with healing rift and jade rabbit and congrats, you now have line of sight and complete control of the two flags. Ive played multiple comp pvp games, destiny 2 is easily the worst ive played.
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Kinda funny how Destiny isnt a competitive PvP game then
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I agree with you fully, and you can travel routes on that map up top or below that avoid sniping/scout lanes Just a bunch of Apes throwing rotten bananas
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Thats because its casual. SBMM should be in organised competitive modes. Expecting random idiots with low skill to do differently is madness
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That is perhaps reason to let those low skill play each other.
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They can do patrols and skill match with red bar adds
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But Lord Shax would not give me bright dust if I kill Red bars.
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This is a backwards reply. Handcannon is'nt the best anymore buddy. If i wanna cheese i'll camp doorways with a pulse. To make games boring for myself and others. I wanna use something that makes me move around. Not sit stationary and get into cover 24/7 by 1 bullet
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It's been the meta for like 3 years and is still the play now. I see plenty of people running around with hand cannons - especially the new raid one which is set to become the meta once everyone crafts their nuke rolls. So I dont know where you have been, cause there are plenty of people sill crushing on it. But im glad you picked a tiny detail that was insignificant in regards to the post
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Edited by iidaptive: 9/3/2022 10:46:05 PMI seriously wish HCs were as good as you make them out to be. I’ve had to opt for a pulse or scout because I don’t want to die to them running around trying to get into effective HC range just to get mapped by a scout/pulse sitting in the back. Better yet a fusion that has zero issue getting handed kills in HC ranges
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3 years? Try nearly 8 solid years except for maybe a few months when ARs and PRs were meta in D1, and once again in D2.
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Ah yes let's generalize a whole games population off of sweats and shotgun apes. Clearly my sidearm isn't a sidearm but a shotgun, how have I not noticed this since year 1.
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Ah yes. Make this about you. Look at the statistics about what people actually use and its primarily hand cannon shotty. I have no issue with the meta. But it's annoying to constantly hear people cry and state their distaste to a map because it isnt built around their play style which is stale and boring.
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I wasn't making it about me lmao, I was pointing out your arrogance in that comment. Bye.
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And I am just doing bounties. Clearly we are not like other girls.
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I agree.People are going to like some maps while others will not like some maps,Just because some people don't like a map doesn't mean that it should be removed so the people who do like it miss out.People need to just get over it and stop asking for maps to be removed.
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i don't agree, Hand cannon/shotgun is by far the most fun setup, you're not standing there shooting your pulse/scout from range the entire time. back when handcannon/shotgun was the meta, there was such a massive skill barrier between players, i get that that needed to be nerfed, but now pulses and scouts have low risk high reward. oh and shotguns feel horrible right now, but it's still the most fun weapon
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Handcannon and Shotties have always been core meta... they are crutch weapons for apes and derps.
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not anymore, it's the most fun meta. every good player agrees, pulse rifles are way more braindead, after shotgun nerfs. trying to fight a pulse rifle with a handcannon, you're either out ranged or destroyed in an instant.
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Skill barrier ? How exactly is there a skill barrier for the primary that has the most AA bullet deviation forgiveness and even the most magnetism out of all the weapon types in the game ?
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Yea if you are seriously still complaining about HC shotty being too good it’s a you problem. They’ve been nerfed plenty and easily are outclassed by a pulse , shoot even some SMGs. Shotguns ? They’re absolutely horrid rn and that’s intentional by Bungie to cater to casuals ofc to fluff up their numbers. Why do you think the easiest crap to use rn is so good ? Pulses fusions scouts, they all encourage passive gameplay. This is to slow the game down to lower skill gap
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Who said I was complaining ? All I did was state the obvious fact and ask what makes using a weapon that basically does everything for you skillful