Am I the only one slightly confused after The Witch Queen story? It seems like Savathun was playing both sides and wanted to prevent the Traveler from being taken…
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She betrayed her husband Toland and thought green was a good color
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22 RepliesEdited by SkinPoppeR: 9/3/2022 6:49:21 AMDid you keep playing Witch Queen and get The Parasite??? You find out so much more. Savathûn was here during the collapse and it wasn’t the Traveler who saved us...... she also created The Awoken (my theory anyway) (I also theorize Taox is inside The Traveler. Taox is The Sterile Mother for “the hive”)
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5 RepliesI hate the term good/evil, because everyone falls somewhere in between.
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2 RepliesIt's not so much that she's good so much that she's likeable. Her voice acting was on point, and she was very charming. In the end though, she'd happily exterminate humanity to achieve her own goals.
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The more I think about it, the less sense her plan makes. Shes alienating potential allies & her entire plan hinged on hoping she'd be granted light and then hoping once again that she'd be able to continue her plan with no memory Doesn't sound very savvy of Savussy
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2 RepliesShe has a similar goal that we do, but she also wants to come out on top. That makes her a GREAT villain, but not a good gal.
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21 RepliesNo, she's not good. She is bad, she's just charming and manipulative. She's just realized that to achieve her goal, she's gonna have to be like us, having both light and dark. So she's playing the game trying to do that. She's a villain that actually seems to learn from watching other villains fail, and adapting.
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Some of our goals align with Savathun's goals, but I wouldn't say that makes her a 'good guy'. End of the day I bet she tries to keep the Traveler to her self.
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Good? No. At best she’s no better than the six fallen houses that laid siege to the city in the Battle of Six Fronts.
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1 ReplyEdited by IcyHorizons: 9/4/2022 12:25:56 AMWell. She is known as the Hive God of Cunning and deception. This is actually further reinforced by the idea that the Traveler was "safe" in her Throne World, it's not if it wasn't for us the Guardian standing together with other Guardians Rhulk would probably find a way to neutralize the Traveler resulting in the same effect as what happened in the Red War, and then the Witness would destroy the Traveler despite Savathuns plan. So either way she really wasn't doing us or the Traveler any favors.
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5 RepliesShe was. She wanted out of the Devils Bargain they made with the Worm Gods (it was eventually going to kill them), and she saw the Traveler and the Light as her only way out. So she defied The Witness’s efforts to destroy the Traveler, which helped to save us during the Collapse. Bottomline, the Traveler has now given her The Light…and we have a seeming ally of convenience who we can’t trust, and we don’t know what game she’s really playing.
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Yes she did, but for her own reasons. Not to save humanity or anything altruistic like that. She is definitely not on our side, but in that moment (and perhaps a few others) our interests aligned.
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Edited by ALLtheHerobrines: 9/3/2022 1:14:03 PMManipulative with a complex motive(s), imo.
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1 ReplyEdited by KannibalKlown: 9/3/2022 2:36:03 AMPoints of view, bla bla bla. I mean, she was trying to physically bind the traveller inside her throne world with that webbing. That’s not exactly benevolent. Inviting someone into your house to avoid the blizzard == good. Inviting someone into your house to avoid the blizzard AND THEN chaining them up in your basement so they can’t ever leave == bad. (Assuming they didn’t know the chains would happen) She chose to become a guardian / Risen to free herself from her worm. And stop killing millions and millions to feed her worm. But a truly nice person would have, I don’t know, killed herself instead of killing millions and millions of people. She might not be as purely evil as some other characters, but she’s far from squeaky clean.
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1 ReplyOh she is just manipulative. Think about what she said, ‘if you cared about the traveler you would of let me hide it here’ Is that true? Maybe but what would be the consequences? Guardians would of lost their Light and gotten wiped out. The Witness would of been free to genocide the whole cosmos then find a way in. So sure, it’s a win for her and her brood and the Traveler. For a time, at the expense of everyone else. Savathun isn’t good. She is useful. That’s why the Traveler took her Ghost before we could destroy it. Because she will be needed later on. Likely due to her insight about the Fleet and Witness.
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is good for a hive god , probably before final shape savathun and lucend hive will be the last race that will become our ally
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Let's say she takes an hides the Traveler . It wouldn't have worked, frankly the Traveler is doomed . And we need to come to peace with that . It isn't the Light, it's a conduit. Maybe we'll find a Baby Traveler or something but the current orb boy is doomed
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1 ReplyI dunno if I can call Savathun good or bad, but I can call her three things: Selfish, manipulative, and charismatic.
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Me, I don't care anymore.
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1 ReplyI'm calling it now: we will rez Savathun to help us fight the darkness in either Lightfall or the Final Shape.
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Guardian,Archon Of LightRIP Destiny 9-14-2014 to 2-18-2026 - old
Haven't you been paying attention, the darkness is the good guys now, now it's the Traveler who is evil Because Bungie wanted a game of thrones ending that even game of thrones couldn't pull off -
1 ReplyTons of people are downvoting the GOAT that is Savathun. It’s not enough that y’all defeated her and defiled her throne world, but you have to go and disrespect her name too.
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4 RepliesDoesn't mean she's good. She'd exterminate one race to save her own. Compare that to Caiatl, who overcomes her pride to work with us.
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Regardless of how people view Savathun morally speaking, I’m glad she felt more fleshed out than Oryx. Though, Oryx was cool in a way because he was always tookin things.
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Of course she is less evil than our character, the drifter, and Saint14. If you want to compare actual death dealings.
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I think it depends on perspective