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Shoulder charge is titan dodge, its the best mobility tool in the game and when you see a good titan player they absolutely do not actively try to shoulder charge players down in most circumstances thinking its a waste of their mobility tool, if this was the case alpha lupi would be a stronger version of wormhusk, the exotic everyone complains about already.
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It’s also infinite if you don’t hit anything
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Edited by Raphaeleddie7: 9/1/2022 10:49:31 PMInfinite Shiver Strike when
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Yeah, because only Hunters get to have that. Right?
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Titans don’t need a dodge now in d2 and never in d 2 did
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Well, they have it now, so it's a little too late for that soap box.
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So now only Warlocks and Hunters get to dodge is what you are saying?
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Titans get a fricken wall they can peak for free by popping a fricken wall no you don’t need more movement
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A wall. So we have to stand still behind it so we can be killed. So no movement from the Titans. Yeah, that seems fair. While Hunters can go invisible AND off radar and the Warlocks can go from one side of the map to in other in .6secs (exaggerated of course but it’s still obscenely fast) because they took an ability Titan originally had because of an exotic mind you and gave it to the Warlocks for free. That seems fair as well. But hey, at least us Titans got a wall right? Just my opinion though. (Not trying to be rude by the way. Some people get bent all out of shape when you try to have a discussion in this forum)
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JasonPassedI am a wall. And I don't care. - old
As a titan main who's broken top 1% and plays top 500s regularly, walls are extremely useful if you use them just right, but also extremely easy to punish and very hard to escape if you use it in a bad spot. Whereas the movement abilities of hunters keep them the highest population, and warlocks have an impressive toolkit with the usage of icarus dash. And now that titans get a dodge I appreciate it even more. It's a much longer cool down than both other classes, and the distance is shorter, but it can really help with dodging a last second shotty shell, or barely recognized sniper shot. Over all it's weaker than the other classes, but it helps. -
Ok let’s make things fair give everyone a wall to place a riot shield so everyone has a wall. Btw with your wall if you take damage you can freely run away hunter invis is a bit broken
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I just think that certain movement abilities (like dodges) all three should have because that is way too much of an advantage for one class. It's the sole reason there are a overwhelming majority of playing in Crucible running a Hunter. Their movement is unmatched by Titans and even Warlocks. Even with the little buffs and changes to them, Hunter are STILL ahead of them when it comes to movement. I'm not saying Titans should get Blink or Invisibility because that is an ability, where as a dodge is a movement. I hope this is making sense, but then again I could be completely off base because I may see it one way and others may see it a different way when it comes to the movement in this game. God knows this has been a debate in this game since it's release all the way back to D1.
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No because titans were the only ones with dash
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That needed an exotic to be able to. Should the other two got an exotic to do this, absolutely. The Hunters had a triple jump with Bones of Eao. Should the other two got something along these lines, that is a hard one to call because the jumps are different. The best I could think of would have been Lion Rampant of some kind for both Titan and Warlock. That is a movement not and ability to me.
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Once class abilities become a thing dodges became the hunter thing titans mind you god walls
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Exactly, Hunter as a class ability got movement dodges to get them out of trouble, go invisible, whereas Titans got.... a wall. Stand here and don't move. Actually now that I think about it, Hunters got screwed on that front. Titans as you said go a wall, Warlocks got cool stuff to shoot out of their hands, and Hunters got......movement that should already be available to everyone instead of getting some cool class ability; not some cool class movement but an actual ability. Maybe the ability to go invisible on all three classes but instead of dodging to go invis he has to activate a device on his wrist that takes about as long to activate as a Titan launching a wall. That would be his class ability and keep the whole Hunters are the stealth class ninjas going. The other two can't do that but we all have the movement of a dodge. Just a thought
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Look at per 3.0 hunter they had 0 defenses besides invis they had no Indra healing like warlocks and no panic wall like titans so they needed more movement
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I agree and I think that is where they missed the opportunity to actually do something cool like I suggested. Maybe not that but something cool and different.
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I would have said give titans actually something new if you wanted to give them something not just garison the class ability
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Edited by Gambit: 9/1/2022 8:11:38 PMAnd I somewhat agree because like I said, all three should be able to dodge, if that is the movement you chose to go with instead of like say you have to choose between Shoulder Charge and Dodge.
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Sholdercharge is mobility enough