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Edited by longshotbob: 8/22/2022 9:08:52 PM
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Eververse Engrams shouldn't drop dupes

I don't expect something new or something big every time I get an Eververse engram but can I at least not get the ship I've had equipped for several seasons? Like, can I get a small bundle of bright dust if it's gonna be a dupe so I can get the things I do want? Like blues turning into shards automatically?

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  • Dead post, don't care. Now I got a shader I've already had for several seasons. That means I get literally nothing from the engram, not even the three legendary shards I bemoaned before about. I don't feel like I'm asking for a lot.

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  • Pretty sure its wired where there is dupe protection but its not full. Dupes should be less common unless you have a lot of stuff from Ever verse.

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    • While I do understand that this is part of their business model... There are WAY, WAY too many items added every expansion/season to get them all from EV engrams, even without getting dupes. By now, without dupes you'd have to get to season pass lvl 1000 for several seasons in a row to start catching up a bit, unless you've played religiously every season since release and got most of it already. Next to nobody has got that kind of time on their hands. Realistically, it wouldn't hurt them financially, as everyone knows you basically have no chance of getting what you want through those engrams anyway, and you're better off buying the stuff you want directly

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    • Edited by longshotbob: 8/24/2022 12:59:36 PM
      This post has gotten way more attention I ever expected and hopefully someone at Bungie can take notice at the response this has garnered. Thank you to the people who agree with me, esp. with points of their own. Thank you to the people who somehow think I'm dumb, as if I couldn't fathom this being a potential intentional business practice and calling out an outdated system. Bungie makes plenty of money and I want them to continue making money. It's why I support them by buying things with real money. I just want to be excited about getting an Eververse engram every time, and usually I am, but I can't get behind 3 legendary shards when I already have 20k.

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    • Edited by Týr-Skadi: 8/23/2022 4:34:53 PM
      You do understand that this is a part of their buisiness model do you? It's like: if you "win" everything what can be bought, Bungie wont make profit. Lots of stuff that the engrams can possibly bring can also be bought via the store. If they give it all away for free there's no micro transactions, or less, to be made. You can't blame them for not giving too much things away for free. It's still a buisiness. And if the buisiness wont run good: the game can dissapear in thin air and we can't play it at all cause it's gone. Also: i don't have the "i've got nothing out of it" problem. Got plenty of BD out of them and also lots of other stuff i did not have allready, like weapon ornaments and so on. Maybe you're expecting too much. It's just extra, those engrams, not a main goal. For me it's like a little "gamble" moment in the game and if i "win" something it's good, if not it's ok too. And if i want to have something really bad: i just buy it. Problem solved. The old system was better, but i think we may be glad those engramms are still here. It's better than nothing. But i would like it if dismantling stuff gave a bit of BD, like in the old days. But then again: they stopped doing that for a reason. "Making money" was the reason.

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      • I swear I got the same shell like 3-4 times in the same month.

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      • Man this whole time I thought it didn’t reward dupes and everything I got was “new” to me

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      • And ghost projections

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      • Couldn’t agree more. Although tbh I really want bright dust to drop more from eververse engrams.

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      • They're loot boxes dude. They are always gonna dope dupes to get you to keep earning them.

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      • Makes sense for it to only drop items you have yet to discover. Even shaders that aren’t seen in the collections tab. But dupes shouldn’t be a thing that exist in the engram pool.

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      • Especially considering that these engrams lag 4 seasons behind the store, yes, this should be expected.

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      • Eververse had a much better system in years 1 & 2. I miss the event engrams back then -- for those who didn't play, we had extra eververse engrams when an event came around that'd give event loot. So for example - during the Year 1 Solstice of Heroes, whenever you'd level up, you'd get a regular bright engram and an additional Solstice Engram that could drop any of the cosmetics in the event. It gave us an extra reason to play the event and was way better than the current system. Then there was the Prismatic Matrix, which was only around during the first two seasons of Y2 (Forsaken & Black Armory). The Matrix had a set collection of eververse rewards (I think somewhere between 8 & 12 for a season), and once a week you could complete a bounty and get a spin at it. It'd give you the items on a knockout-list, so every week you were guaranteed something new. You could also buy extra spins with silver if desired, but logging in every week meant you could get everything from the matrix in a season. They took these options out because they wanted more MTX, and while they have every right to do so, it was a bummer to lose them for sure.

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        • Evervese Engram One of the games most pointless waste of times

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        • Oh... 100 hundy % this. [i]please.[/i]

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        • This. Don’t need drop protection, but a small thing of bright dust would be nice. I think I’ve only gotten 1 thing for them in the past year that I’ve been like: “yeah, that’s awesome” when it dropped.

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        • I’ve had such a argument about this type of thing I’m sick bungie is still doing duplicate things when they have a ton of cosmetics

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        • They don’t unless you’ve already obtained everything available within the set available

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          • The knockout system could absolutely be better. I'm still getting repeat junk from Y1 that I've already gotten at least 2-3 times each, and that's including the exotic stuff too.

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          • Cbf reading all these other replies, some good points made by the ones i did read, but absolutely yes, there was so much stuff from the first few seasons in particular, that doesn't show up in the collections if you didn't get it back then, and there so much of the armour ornaments now, and when you triple it cause there's three different classes, they should probably add some of the older seasons stuff to the loot pool. Also, although they added the seasonal challenges and seasonal content (i suppose it's a battle pass), they did so because previously the weekly bounties from the vanguard, gambit and crucible bounties were 200 bright dust per bounty completed. 2 weekly bounties per vendor = 200 x 6 and then times that by three characters, so 1200 x 3 = 3600 bright dust per week, not including the regular random bounties that reward 10 dust. But if you didn't complete them, then you missed out. Now doing the weekly challenge (8 bounties) only rewards 120 dust per vendor, so it's only 360 per character per week, or 1080 total account wide per week. Certainly better to have the seasonal challenges that are available for that whole season, it's more that Bungie does something in the game, then 12 months later completely change it, and not necessarily for the better........

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            • Edited by Gunship: 8/22/2022 10:26:36 PM
              [quote]I don't expect something new or something big every time I get an Eververse engram but can I at least not get the ship I've had equipped for several seasons? Like, can I get a small bundle of bright dust if it's gonna be a dupe so I can get the things I do want? Like blues turning into shards automatically?[/quote] I agree. I've had enough of Bungie being slimey used car sales-people. Drops in an activity should be drops [i]FROM[/i] the avtivity also! If I am sifting my way through the absolute dumpster fire of Trials matchmaking and our team actually wins some matches and gets some loot, It better [i]NOT be from the general loot pool I could get anywhere![/i] Bungie needs remedial ethics for so called 'professionals'.... The ads, for tomorrow's announcement from Bungie about the new seasons has so many ridiculous shills demonstrating their lack of acting skills, you would think they were Bethesda @ E3... As far as 'Bright Dust' Bungie has little by little, locked off and suppressed the [i]actual buying power[/i] over the years. Now all you can ever 'buy' with that crap currency is a handful of (really easy to get) shaders that mostly don't work correctly (or predictably) on most gear, and a 2 or 3 specially chosen '[i]non[/i]universal ornaments, emotes no guy would ever use, and those idiotic ghost projections that literally [i]no-one ever uses![/i] Forget the idea of DullDust actually having a reasonable 'silver' equivalence rate to 'shop' for something specific you actually want. Last night I went through the annoying hassle to get used to the Forerunner 'sidearm'. Feeling ok with it after the effort (mostly just forcing myself to treat it as a totally unique archetype in the game, rather than thinking of it as actually being a sidearm), I looked to see what slogfest of dumb things I had to go through to get the catalyst... [b][i]You have to BUY the '30th rip-off' anniversary pack or whatever its called!!! [/i][/b]

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              • The bean counters would revolt if they did that

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              • Dupes should turn into dust, even if it's just a small amount. And if that creates a problem for their market, they can just space out the bright engrams to every 20 levels or something. Just no dupes.

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              • The dupe system makes silver worthless. And if they do get rid of dupes, you can expect bright dust prices to double than they currently are. With the current game being free to play, Bungie needs to make money somewhere.

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                • Bungie RNG. The RNG is weighted and limited to a very small number of items. On very rare occasions will it roll outside that tiny window. With Bungie RNG you get Riptide, Edge Transit, and other common rolls. Just wish for the hard to get items needing vendors to unlock, more logic would be used.

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                • Or dupes should turn into bright dust

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