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8/17/2022 4:25:41 AM
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I’m beginning to dislike marvel more and more as they continue to make cut rate movies, it feels like after they released Multiverse of Madness, and ofc there’s other examples before, but as a movie-it had little to offer. At the core of Marvel, it feels like the studio is directionless and lacks aim. In the long run, I don’t see them making anything great in terms of story. The graphics team however is 10/10…most of the time
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  • Disagree. Every movie can’t be Infinity War or Endgame. Those movies had the impact they did because Marvel used lots of other movies to build our investment in the characters: Iron Man, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Thor, Ant-Man, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Guardians of The Galaxy, etc… People remember the results, but forget the world-building that it took to get there. Marvel is in another world-building phase. They have brought all these other properties back home: The X-Men, The Fantastic Four, Daredevil, etc. These story lines have to be integrated into the universe. “No Way Home” had the job of resolving the Sony Spider-man movies into the multiverse. The new Dr. Strange movie touched on the first series of X-men movies. Also groundwork is being laid for Daredevil to enter, and rumors abound that The Sub-Mariner and perhaps Dr. Doom (Fantastic Four) are on the horizon. But Infinity War and Endgame were the result of a decade’s worth of work leading up to it. Now we’re back to the foot of the mountain and climbing up again.

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  • Right I understand that, it kinda feels to me just like they have all this material but jus don’t know what to do with it if that makes sense

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  • It makes sense, but you have to look outside to the real world to make sense of it. In world, they are laying the foundation for the multiverse, and positioning everything within it.

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  • I suppose, I guess I’ll just have to wait to see it come togehter

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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 8/17/2022 5:42:24 PM
    That’s the trick. We were willing to wait before, because we didn’t know what was coming. Now we know how good Infinity War and Endgame were, so we want all of them to be like that…and it’s just not possible. They have to start building for the next peak.

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  • Yeah, it just feels like they’re playing down the marvel standard, the movies feel a bit lazily done-not expecting every movie to be groundbreaking, just good enough.

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  • No. Backwards. You’re expecting the early chapters of the book to be just as exciting as the climax of story. Doesn’t work that way. Go back and watch the early Iron Man or Thor movies. They were fun, but they were not that great. What made Infinity War and Endgame great was our emotional investment in the characters. What made that scene where Peter Parker died in Stark’s arms so powerful was two movies worth of stupid jokes where Stark started to realize that Peter was the son he never knew he wanted. Without the pain of that loss, his reluctance to risk his post-Snap family wouldn’t have made sense. It would have just seemed like a selfish act of cowardice. Likewise it would have also robbed his eventually decision to fight, and to ultimately sacrifice himself, and to deny his own family their father-and-husband of its altruistic impact. The foundation for his wife to accept that sacrifice as calmly as she did was laid in three Iron Man movies. She understood that he lived and loved with everything he had. He loved her. He loved the world…and he did nothing halfway…and you couldn’t pick and choose to just have the parts of him that worked to your benefit. Iow he died being who he was. She accepted his sacrifice because she loved him. All of him. But the power of those moments only came from the world building of all the movies that led up to those two. You can’t skip that…nor can you maintain that level of intensity either.

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