also why can't we have matchmaking for stuff...instead of having to use an app on a different device.
the whole game is a joke in terms of matchmaking. if destiny 3 is like this, i'm not buying.
also i deleted destiny 2 after realizing i couldn't get thorn without creating a party on the phone app.
seriously, who makes these terrible decisions?
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Edited by Sweet Lew 88: 5/14/2020 6:26:26 PMI guess you've never used random matchmaking? It's because it would be a poor experience on average for most that use it. When I use random match making, I often get players that don't know what they are doing, they don't know how to kill the bosses in forge or don't know how to pass the ball around on the corrupted strike, or don't know how to turn public events heroic. I typically don't mind because I expect it. In a raid, it's a different story. People need to perform with little instruction. Most people that rely on matchmaking will not be able to perform these tasks. Most won't have microphones to communicate, very important in a raid. Many don't have the temperament or the skills to do these activities in high pressure environments. If people aren't clicking, you could be stuck in the same stage for literally hours. What happens when someone eventually leaves from frustration? Do you go back into queue to find another random? The whole falls apart? I don't think it would be a good idea and apparently so does Bungie. Lol, deleted game when you couldn't do a strike for an exotic.
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With the custom strikes like the one for Thorn and Malfesence, there can't really be a good matchmaking system because there is definitely a low amount of players doing exotic quest specific activities like them leading to unfortunately long queue times. However, they're transitioning to a system where they use typical playlist strikes with additional activities (I'm specifically thinking of the Deathbringer exotic quest-line) where it adds an additional enemy to defeat near the end. Meaning you can use traditional strike matchmaking to complete the quest-line. :)
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[quote]also why can't we have matchmaking for stuff...instead of having to use an app on a different device. the whole game is a joke in terms of matchmaking. if destiny 3 is like this, i'm not buying. also i deleted destiny 2 after realizing i couldn't get thorn without creating a party on the phone app. seriously, who makes these terrible decisions?[/quote] What part of the thorn quest requires a fireteam?
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the last part
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[quote]the last part[/quote] The strike? No it doesn't.
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Edited by perfectkale: 5/12/2020 4:50:10 AMit's meant to be done with 3 players and designed with that in mind obviously. it's like saying you can do nightfalls with 1 player. are you being intentionally obtuse?
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[quote] are you being intentionally obtuse?[/quote] You said a fireteam was required. At no part of that is there requirement for a fireteam. Yes the strike has modifiers to increase its difficulty but it's still able to be soloed. Nightfalls are soloed by many players Yes it's like soloing a nightfall. Practice and strategy let's you solo it. Either that or save time by getting at least one other guardian to help via this app.
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Edited by perfectkale: 5/12/2020 5:01:46 AMyeah and my point is why don't they have an option for matchmaking instead of forcing me to use an app. why do i have to use an app to matchmake again? what difference does it make? and why don't they make it soloable and allow it to scale then? that is beyond dumb. it really show how terrible the design of this game and how it is all based around gatekeeping and other nonsense and not skill
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[quote] it really show how terrible the design of this game and how it is all based around gatekeeping and other nonsense and not skill[/quote] That if your skilled enough via practice that the thorn strike can be done solo is terrible game design and nothing to do with skill? You keep asking if I'm being obtuse. Are you simply joking by posting what I quoted
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[quote]yeah and my point is why don't they have an option for matchmaking instead of forcing me to use an app. why do i have to use an app to matchmake again? what difference does it make? and why don't they make it soloable and allow it to scale then? that is beyond dumb[/quote] You are not forced to use it. You can practice and work out a strategy and run the strike solo. Or you can use this app. In the time you have replied to me you could have already found a guardian or 2 and been half way through the strike. The only ones that answer your question about why can't there be matchmaking for certain activities are bungie. You have 2 work arounds for the issue you face with the thorn quest. If you don't want use them and simply complain about matchmaking it's only your loss.
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why do i have to find a workaround to something that should be in the game, ie matchmaking? the point is that the game is poorly designed. also you say that but this example shows how poor their design is. quests like this should scale with party numbers because if you are doing them later, it can be very difficult to find people
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[quote]why do i have to find a workaround to something that should be in the game, ie matchmaking? the point is that the game is poorly designed. also you say that but this example shows how poor their design is. quests like this should scale with party numbers because if you are doing them later, it can be very difficult to find people[/quote] You could have found at least one guardian willing to help you and been up to the boss fight by now. But keep complaining. Everything in life isn't perfect and suited to your wants and wishes but there are work arounds to get what you want. If no one is doing the quest how will matchmaking help you? It's actually a good reason why there isn't matchmaking. You can find guardians willing to help with the strike via lfg. It's very small percentage of player that refuse to do what the multitudes of other solo players have done to get the weapon.
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Edited by sonjalovestyson: 5/12/2020 4:52:21 AM[quote]it's meant to be done with 3 players and designed with that in mind obviously. it's like saying you can do nightfalls with 1 player.[/quote] Its easier with a team yes. However it's not requirement what was implied
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it's like saying a full party isn't required for nightfalls. please, you are being intentionally obtuse
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[quote]it's like saying a full party isn't required for nightfalls. please, you are being intentionally obtuse[/quote] No a full team us not required. Too many guardians solo nightfalls. It's challenging but very doable
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ok then they should make them scale for party numbers if that's your response. either way their design is terrible and outdated
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[quote]ok then they should make them scale for party numbers if that's your response. either way their design is terrible and outdated[/quote] Why should it scale? It's more satisfying to solo an activity and adds that extra challenge. Scaling the difficulty based on fire team numbers simply kills satisfaction and kills certain triumphs that require solo runs of certain activities.
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no it doesn't at all. if they want to a set difficulty...ok. but then they should make 3 manning harder. either way, the system is just dumb. the way the difficulty is current set, no sane person would do this. and it also takes way longer...
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[quote]no it doesn't at all. if they want to a set difficulty...ok. but then they should make 3 manning harder. either way, the system is just dumb. the way the difficulty is current set, no sane person would do this. and it also takes way longer...[/quote] Wow. You complain about strike needing a fireteam and this is your solution. You do know making it harder would also take longer to finish
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So make it optional.
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[quote]So make it optional.[/quote] Make what optional?