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Edited by darqknife: 7/14/2015 8:21:17 PM
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My NL Shadow 701X roll... is it good, godly, or crap?

HOLY $#17, THAT'S AWESOME!

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meh, seen better (please add in what it was)

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it's solid crap, dismantle/reroll (please say why)

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Keep in mind that I can fire all scouts faster than they can shoot (accurately too) so I feel that full auto is a waste. Blame that on my love for the svu/mk14 from various CoD games... Here's my roll: Focus lens fla5 - long range, enhanced target acquisition, surprisingly light. Rodeo - reduces severity of recoil Single point sling - switch weapons faster, move quickly while aiming. (for when I need to pull out a shottie) Hidden hand - this wrapon gains better target acquisition. I feel this combination works amazingly together for pvp, and I want to get your opinion on it. *EDIT* With trying this out, now leveled up, I can tell you this much - hidden hand gives head shots when it would otherwise hit the upper chest or miss the head. Basically it's a larger headshot hitbox. Rodeo makes it have almost no recoil at all, not that I had much of an issue with it, but rodeo is ALWAYS active. And again, for me, full auto is a waste. I can shoot faster than this gun can fire, so there is no point in having it. And I don't mean just consistently, I mean at all times. For others it might be viable, but not me. **EDIT** Full auto does NOT increase the rate of fire (on shotguns due to a bug only, we are talking scouts here). It ONLY allows the weapon to perfectly hit the weapon's max RoF without any mispulls of the trigger. That means, if a weapon shoots every 200 ms, and you pull the trigger at 190 ms, it won't fire until you pull the trigger again. There is currently nothing in the game that will actually boost the rate of fire on any weapon past it's max RoF. Whoever started this rumor is either lying to you, or is an idiot. Don't get me wrong, there are benifits to this perk, but an increase of RoF is NOT ONE OF THEM. Also, did some testing, and rodeo really does make a difference with the kick. The reason I would say this is better that Zen moment, is that it is always in effect, rather than after damage is delt. I love firefly, but it is harder to pull off with high RoF weapons. It's too easy to miss the headshot with bullets rapidly firing, and seems better suited on slightly slower firing weapons to always get that last headshot. This is why I prefer hidden hand, which is always in effect whether you kill/damage an enemy or not. Explosive round are fun, but you lose a lot of damage to the explosion. However, shooting at grouped up enemies, it becomes a massively useful perk. In modes like trials, it is very rare that enemies will be grouped up for fear of nades. This perk works best in 6v6 pvp games, or in pve in general. Also note, this is a pvp build. I like this setup for one main reason - None of the perks are ever not used at any given time. They always have their effects on, whether I hit/kill/headshot/die, and has no loss of damage for any reason.

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  • I have grenadier, crowd control, and explosive rounds.

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  • Edited by HollowBruja: 12/24/2016 3:21:13 AM
    Dude I love this thing. I use it to Countersnipe all the time. It's rate of fire is enough that if you can get the guy to miss his shot (Under fire they more often than not, miss) then you can take him out before he can get his aim on you. DO NOT SIT STILL WHEN FACING SNIPERS. YOU WILL DIE. MOVE SIDE TO SIDE, KEEP CLOSE TO COVER. Use the scope. It's good for up close too, with it's rate of fire. Here's mine - Eye of the Storm *More accurate as you take damage* - Hand-laid stock - Underdog

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  • Edited by Guerrillar Tape: 12/17/2016 5:29:41 AM
    Gosh this sucker fires fast, i love it!!! My roll below; Triple Hand laid stock /high caliber rounds 3rd eye

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  • I'm fully aware that this post is very old, but I was interested anyway. I said that it's solid crap. Rodeo is proven to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING (which makes no sense; thanks bungo.) Single point sling is okay, but hand-laid stock is absolutely better down the middle. Hidden Hand is great though.

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  • Red dot-ORS1 Crowd control Explosive rounds Outlaw. Thoughts?

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  • Lens - Red dot ORS1 Perk 1 - triple tap Perk 2 - Explosive rounds Perk 3 - Outlaw

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  • I got mine with zen moment, haid laid stock, and third eye. Also the sight is the red dot ors1. I think this scout with near max stability and third eye is great for both pve and pvp. Thoughts?

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  • I got one with Icarus and Grenadier -_- doesn't suit my style of play (warning shots followed by death).

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  • Definitely a really solid PvP scout. I have one with Zen Moment, Hand-Laid Stock, and Outlaw and it is fantastic.

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  • I got mine from grinding crucible. It has triple tap, outlaw, and High caliber rounds.

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    • I was never really a fan of this gun. The problem with the shadow is for it to be viable in pvp you have to be hitting the head shots. Otherwise it does nothing in terms of damage. Recently got what I consider to be a god roll for pvp which was triple tap, hand laid stock and hidden hand. This is a fantastic roll as it constantly feed bullets back if your accurate. As for full auto really don't need this as the gun fires so fast anyway wasted perk on the shadow there's very little difference.

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      • My NL Shadow 701x ( year 2): - Zen Moment - Explosive Rounds - Hidden Hand I'm pleased with it

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      • I have a NL Shadow 701X that has 1. Focus Lens FLA5, 2. Full Auto 3. Armor Piercing Rounds. 4. Firefly I like it, personally what do you think?

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        • I have triple tap, braced frame, and outlaw. It is crazy.

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        • What about mine on my warlock?

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        • NL Shadow 701x ( year 2) - Crowd control - Reactive reload - Braced frame Vs Mida multi tool [spoiler]NL wrecks....[/spoiler]

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          • It's a year one weapon.

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            • Get full auto

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            • I got that, but accidentally dismantled it.

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            • Except one thing, if you are using year one weapons in crucible, that drops your light level and the light level of the rewards at the end of a match. My best advice is find a year two that's close whether blue or legendary and practice on it. IronBanner and TrialsOfOsiris are level and light based so a loadout of year one weapons puts you at a disadvantage damage wise. Just food for thought. PS I think I saw a year two Shadow 701x drop yesterday, though not rerollable, perhaps worth grinding for if you have your heart set on that gun

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              • The best perk for that thing is full auto but I settled with firefly and explosive rounds but roll for full auto

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              • I have been thinking for the nl shadow for about 17 hours now and still haven't got one. Ready to say the hell with this game

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              • I'm so happy I finally rolled my dream setup of - Full Auto - Explosive Rounds - Outlaw- (':

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                • Has no burn so crap

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                  • Full auto fire fly fieldscout

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                    • Edited by KidSixXx: 7/30/2015 1:02:43 PM
                      Mine has Full Auto, Firefly, Red Dot, and Custom Optics. Not sure why people insist on giving it a stability perk. The recoil is very manageable.

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