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originally posted in: Cbmm killed crucible
7/17/2022 8:02:54 PM
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411k pvp players yesterday. Back when sbmm was in the game it was 150k or less. Sbmm Destroys the pvp population. Bungie knows pvp mains will stop buying DLCs and seasons if they add more sbmm. Bad pvp players won't stop buying DLCs and Seasons if sbmm isn't added. The game already has 2 sbmm. You kids who cry for sbmm just refuse to play them.
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  • 150k when? If you’re talking about Y1, that’s dumb. There were so many things wrong with Y1 that identifying any one thing isn’t possible. Everyone knows that Shadowkeep SBMM Control was too successful. They wouldn’t have eliminated Classic Mix, otherwise. These are the lowest population numbers I’ve seen since Forsaken came out.

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  • Shadowkeep didn't have sbmm it had forced wins and loses. Last time sbmm was in was Mid way through warmind. Where it got accidently turned off and population grew before forsaken. Bungie removed sbmm because people stopped playing and buying DLCs and seasons. Sbmm is in the game you guys refuse to play the playlists and Bungie knows this. So why add sbmm? So people who don't play sbmm playlists continue to not play and pvp mains stop buying DLCs and seasons??

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  • Yes, it did. Everything had SBMM except Classic Mix when Shadowkeep dropped. Luke Smith wrote a novel about it in his Director’s Cut series. Stop telling lies to fit your narrative.

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  • It wasn't kd based lmao it was forced wins and loses.

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  • For you. I had high percents and low depending on the playlist. You’re clearly a troll, so blocked.

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  • You had a 50% win ratio in shadowkeep and your whole d2 career...

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  • The article you recited literally has Luke Smith saying That pvp mm was forced wins and losses

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  • Pvp is free mate, if pve players stopped buying expansions the game would be a ghost town, they’d have to shut down the servers.

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  • Pvp mains buy seasons and DLCs for new weapons. People who cry for sbmm still buy DLCs and seasons.

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  • All that shows is how much pvp players want to farm bad players and preserve their precious stats. cbmm is not fun. I can take an hour break and match the same team I played an hour ago because of proximity. It’s stupid.

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  • So make pvp unplayable lag fest with 10+ minute ques. So that people who don't play pvp are happy?? Want sbmm? Play the sbmm playlists. It's not hard. Bungie knows they will lose money if they listen to the people who don't play and they know you guys refuse to play the sbmm playlists.

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  • Pretty sure pvp wasn’t unplayable before, tweaks were made and many more are needed. I’m not going to say that your concerns aren’t warranted but pvp was much better when matched against similar skill. Far less games called due to imbalanced lobbies. This also resulted in groups staying together longer. As it stands now matches are “broken up” and with cbmm you just match the same players again. Not very effective.

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  • Yep that's why it had 1/4th the players back then. Always weird you guys want sbmm but avoid it like the plague.

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  • 😂

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  • Seems like your buying DLCs still and avoiding sbmm playlists.

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  • Edited by OleHead315: 7/17/2022 8:30:04 PM
    😅😂 stupidity

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