This might not make me any friends, but I get a little more disheartened every time I join a KWTD LW post and when we get to riven I call out that I'll call/shoot eyes and grab taken ball, after this I get a quick response of "Oh nah, we're just cheesing". Do most people not know how to do riven legit? it is one of the most challenging and rewarding fights, but nobody can experience that challenge or triumph because there is a cheese that has been around for a year that lets anybody essentially skip the encounter, even though said encounter is the FINAL BOSS. Anyone is welcome to share their own opinion below, agree or disagree, I look forward to the open discussion