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originally posted in: recluse is a little too much
10/22/2019 2:31:06 PM
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I know people won't like this, but it needs a damage Nerf in pve.
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  • Tarrabah would be so good if recluse didn't exist...

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  • Exactly. Tarrabah should do that damage Recluse should not.

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  • It had master of arms nerfed what more do you want? And if we do that than huckleberry is next. Stop asking for nerfs. This dlc has had more nerfs than buffs already stop it.

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  • Yes it did

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  • It does 90% more damage...on one kill. No, it needs to be reined in.

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  • Its Already been nerfed in pvp stop asking for nerfs.

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  • Edited by Hatter: 10/23/2019 1:58:12 PM
    Dude, I am one of those people who dominate in PVP. I'm not talking about pvp. In PVP its "nerf" was a minor range reduction. I use it from time to time there. It's fine there. In pve it needs reined in. stop forcing power creep.

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  • You're literally lying/trolling stop it. Master of arms was nerfed before shadowkeep launched do you want to lie some more? it.https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/48198

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  • Edited by Hatter: 10/23/2019 2:14:13 PM
    Are you drunk? [quote]Reduced the effectiveness of the following perks in PvE:   (Added missing note 10/1) Rampage, Kill Clip, Swashbuckler, Multi-Kill Clip, Desperado, Surrounded, Master of Arms, Onslaught In general, these perks use the same damage multipliers for PvE that they did in PvP [/quote] I can tell you didn't read this, because please tell me EXACTLY WHERE THEY SAY MOA WAS NERFED IN PVP. Get your head out of your ass. It does 90% more body damage in pve. You better read the sh*t you post before you look this stupid.

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  • Wow yep you're trolling clearly you can't read it was nerfed in pve.

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  • 🤦‍♂️ You...don't. get it. It's STILL TOO EFFECTIVE. Rampage 3 stacks, kill clip, multikill clip, swashbuckler x5 all do roughly 30 to 50% more damage after a kill. Rampage on Huckleberry and momento Mori do more. Master of arms does nearly double damage after one kill, and you just chain it. It's an exotic masqueraded as a legendary. Know how I know this? I play the game. I saw this myself. And many others see it too. So, it needs more of a nerf to be brought in line with the other damage multipliers. You're only digging yourself a hole here. You should stop now before I smash you with more facts.

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  • No it didn't.

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  • Why tho? Who is it hurting in pve?

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  • It out DPSes every other gun in the game against adds. It's ridiculously strong. There is zero reason to run anything else

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  • Nah there’s plenty of options for add clearing. Open your mind a bit

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  • No you're not getting it. Yes there is, but recluse is miles better. Swashbuckler, rampage, kill clip, and multikill clip all do roughly 30-50% more and a couple require more work to maintain. Recluse does 90% more damage on one kill, and you just keep chaining it. Dude....this is too much.

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  • Lol you’re getting way too worked up over shitty destiny relax 😂

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  • Edited by Hatter: 10/23/2019 10:21:05 PM
    ? Dude I enjoy the game. Ain't nothing wrong with having a discussion. I'm not worked up I just have a stance on this.

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  • Nah you’re getting all worked up. Smoke a bowl, drink a beer, smile.

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  • ? Um...you can have passion in things and still enjoy life dude. If you think otherwise you can't and won't get far. I quite will enjoy a beer. And I'll play destiny while I do. And I'll have a debate with my friends over the game industry.

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  • Problem is, it’s solid. We just need other guns to get similar boosts. My biggest complaint isn’t the Recluse, rather that I would like those rounds we can put on weapons to be able to be put on other Exotics so they aren’t a tier lower than Legendaries like they are now. Unstoppables especially would benefit so much more from that change if we can fit them onto other Hand Cannons than Legendaries.

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  • Needs to be the other way around. Bungie said they're reining in legendaries. Recluse is an outlier.

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  • Yeah the Recluse has become one of my go to’s, it really just needs a lower modifier to the damage bonus at the most for me though. I still prefer my Loaded Question in the slot though, broke me out of situations more than the Recluse, and it’s in the middle side balance wise on both ends (slow wind up makes Erentil outdo it considerably). But also, the reason we need Exotics to have a slot to at least be able to equip these Artifact Mods is more along the lines that it would just make it so we don’t need to switch our weapon to break shields, disrupt targets or stop an unstoppable.

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  • Oh yes totally agree about the mods. I would 100% use thorn or ace if they had mod slots (well, I'd have to really give up my anarchy, but you get the point)

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  • Agree.

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