I would rather have a fusion rifle meta than a Recluse & Dust Rock meta.

See this guy has the right argument and im glad he does as people need to realise that fusions are supposed to have more range than a shotty yet the fusion has exceeded this range and is now broken (i have a roll that can kill from 80m+) All other fusions are fine other then a decently rolled erentil. If it was adjusted to perfom like the wizened then id be over the moon

There are some concerns with Erentil but the truly broken weapon is Jottun. That gun is literally point, pull trigger, guaranteed kill. Now I know that it isn’t that common but atleast with Erentil you have to aim and there is a degree of skill involved, Jottun just does all the work for you, you just have to make sure you are picking up the ammo for it.

The nerf should be for crucible only though. I'm so tired of people from crucible making points and complaints (that are valid complaints in crucible, yes) about good PVE guns that get nerfed into the ground because it doesn't work well in PVP.

Erentil needs a range nerf, absolutely. A not well rolled Erentil can kill a player with one single shot in a range where other good Fusion Rifles do almost nothing. A God Roll Erentil can kill a player in a range of 75 meters. It's clearly broken.

Shits hitting me around corners lol its absolutely rediculous the one shot range might as well be a liner fusion rifle

https://youtu.be/Le9dsU6iC-4

Getting annoyed with people using erentill? Just do what I do pull out your mountaintop spawn trap them with extreme prejudice and bag them after each kill. I’ve been doing it since season 5 and it works every time. They’ll get the message.

I dislike Jotunn users more than Erentil users.

[quote]Erentil has essentially left it's category as a midrange weapon. As well as making primary gunfights almost pointless. It's range has far exceeded what should be reasonable for a fusion rifle with such a tight bolt spread and reasonable recoil. It's charge rate, which should be the slowest (and require timing/planning) is a non-issue when faced with most primaries, and closing the distance with a shotgun is... Hit or miss, no pun intended (looking at you, pellet spread.) Nevermind the sad state of a sidearm against the charge rate. It needs adjusting, either the range needs reigned in, or the charge rate needs a rework to be longer, or even just adjust the bolt spread at range to decrease the instances of "Mapping" guardians with it from a range that's entirely unreasonable.[/quote] Erentil is just a mid range weapon. You can’t stand at 20m and spam your hand cannon at people using it. When you hear it’s very loud charge queue from around a corner you can’t peek it. You can’t run at the same player who killed you with it over and over with your shotgun out. It doesn’t map anyone. The god roll for range perks can against a player standing still in a private match. The crucible isn’t like that. To get a 1HK you have to time your charge, be in range, AND hit your shot. You run at an Erentil user that’s your fault, you peek the corner when you hear it charging that’s your fault, you stand still out of cover that’s your fault. The gun isn’t highly used, so when you actually see one adjust your play. Don’t come to the forums and beg Bungie to nerf a perfectly fine gun because you die to it. That behavior ruins the game as more and more and more gets nerfed until we are back at D2Y1 levels of mediocrity. Fusions including Erentil play a vital part in the meta of being the the mid range 1hk weapon. The range on it is fine because it’s only consistent in mid ranges. Consistency is the key. We need a 1HK special for ranges between shotguns and snipers or else all we have left in the crucible is shotguns and snipers.

Ok. Decrease range of erintil. While your at it, why not also nerf the stompies on a hunter or the warlock blink exotic, so that a lot of shotgun builds become much less viable. That would force these players to use a different builds, right? That’s what bungie wants, right? You people always argue for nerfs, yet the very same people your nerfing could JUST AS EASILY nerf exotics and gear YOU HAVE. How much effort would it take me if me and a bunch of other titans complained about these 2 exotics? You all would try SO DESPERATELY to reverse the nerfs announcement to no avail. When does bungie EVER reverse a nerf? And before you jump to a conclusion, I’m not a erintil user...The fusions on my characters are precision fusions. You nerf herders are EXACTLY the reason the game is in the sorry state it’s in. EVERYTHING IN GAME IS TOO WEAK in pve. You people try the new freaking raid. It’s outright impossible, because nothing is freaking viable for ANY encounter. And I’m 943...

Drb and other shotguns plague crucible like what 10x more than fusions...

Btw, Erentil has still NEVER made the top 5 pvp weapons. Recluse has every week. Luna's still is. Mida still is. Erentil is not. The problem with you is you're not good. You go rushing around everywhere like a child and then cry when someone pops out and kills you. It's not that Erentil is good, it's that you aren't, ape.

It’s hardly used! Go check the figures You hear it charge, you have time to move but you don’t it’s on you

I can agree on bringing in the range of these fusion rifles....but if this happens Bungie will go overboard and the consistency of these weapons will drop off dramatically

I gotta be honest and say as an Erentil user, if someone maps me with one then mad props to them, it’s not easy as people seem to think

Especially with the nerf to handcannon range... I think that fusions should experience the same type of drastic drop off to damage at range in the crucible. I feel it should not be possible to die from one shot from a fusion at 40+ meters. Really spoiling the crucible for me...