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9/15/2019 11:52:24 PM
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As a PVP Warlock main, there's not much to look forward to at this point. Subclass's, movement, exotics. Reworks needed.

Please note I say this from a PVP perspective and concerning the future of Warlocks in PVP.

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  • You Warlocks are ridiculous. You have dawnblade, handheld super nova, arc web, Arc souls , blink... You kids are just fine. Stop whining.

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    Hey, don't you talk bad about Warlock movement. With surfing and Transversives on, it's the fastest class for horizontal movement. Even Strikers spamming their mid-Super Shoulder Charge can't catch you, without even needing a Lightweight weapon on top of that. It's also nice for quick, short hops to the side when getting pushed up-close.

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  • Disagree. You guys have many things that make you top tier. Whether you know how to use them is up to the user. Dawn blade is the perfect example.

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    • Edited by Bananabitch: 9/16/2019 7:48:43 PM
      I main a Warlock and have no complaints.

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      • I use getaway artist, bottom tree storm caller and 3 nade mods and 2 paragon mods with empowering rift, le monarque and a quickdraw hazard of the cast. Used it in comp to get to 2100 glory, 90% solo. I get you man but if you want to make a loadout/class work just think outside the box. Ever use a le monarque with empowering rift? If not go try it my friend or even with a well of radiance too but make sure you have a titan buddy with armeterium and supressor nades/5 nade mods. You will thank me later.

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        • Ill trade high jump for blink on arc class

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        • I will trade you a Hunter super for Blink. Except Golden Gun. You can't have that.

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          • Disagree.

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          • The dawnblade super is the only reason to pick a warlock. This is just one of many subclass trees that have a super that is too strong and a neutral game that is too weak (ex. Dawnblade) or a neutral game that is too strong and a super that is too weak (ex. nova warp). Subclass trees like bottom tree arcstrider and arc web stormcaller are so close to being 50/50 neutral game/super effectiveness, and imo atleast 1 tree from each subclass should be balanced this way for pvp.

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          • Edited by GrandStyles: 9/17/2019 7:19:21 AM
            What lmao. Storm and dawn will still be dominant. Slova is viable. Getaway artist, ophidian and transversives snap. Top tree dawn has the highest skill ceiling in the game. Also why would you bring up weapons nerfs when talking about class maining lmao

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          • Warlocks have the a mid-game that potentially beats both Hunters and Titans. Warlocks have big brain, abuse it!

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          • Sorry but I agree stormtrance bottom And top tree are the slowest garbage super I’ve seen to date a lot slower movement than shadow blade and titan missle or fists of trample the map ! And it lasts the shortest. I feel warlocks only have to offer bottom tree dawnblade for PvP super as the others just don’t compete with titan and hunter class supers which are mainly designed to roam And kill not a lot of roaming with nova bomb except top tee but it moves slow enough to be evaded easily. Bottom tree void walker on shot bang you get a kill or you dont

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            • Top tree dawnblade has the best movement in the game. You just have to be skilled to use it; most people aren't.

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            • Dawnblade is a very good super. Top and bottom tree. Someone could even argue for well to be included too (imo its very situational and not worth it a majority of the time) one of the only problems with the two is that it's a skill gap, you have to learn how to use those supers well you can't jump right into the dawnblade and expect to perform well first try. I fear a good dawnblade more than a good bottom tree striker any day honestly. The second problem would be that bottom tree dawnblade doesnt have great neutral game abilities but ive seen some good players out there not even need it. I don't play the dawnblade class at all in crcuible on warlock, mostly because of the skill gap I mentioned earlier, I just don't have it. But I've seen it used well. Arc week made top tree storm boi a god almost, it's not broken anymore but it's still very good. I think warlocks are in a decent place with pvp supers, they're good supers aren't broken (ahem titans) but they could be better by maybe having a lot more good choices like how hunters do, but right now it's playable. I'm hoping in shadowkeep or at least in y3 for bungie to give a bit more love to warlocks

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              • It’s just a thought... if Bungie can’t balance all 3 classes together then they should just bring only one class with more subclasses in D3. It’s easier to balance it for the likes of Bungie. ...and by now It’s obvious that Bungie can’t balance anything right. even if... it would take months!

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              • There has already been a lot of post detailing how this is completely incorrect. So I won't make another one. But maybe Warlock isn't for you...

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              • I see no problems for warlocks in PvP except their class skill cannot be used aggresively. It works if you use it behind cover, then peek and shoot. But it is nothing like hunter dodge, and it also does not offer the strategic value titan barricade offers (best way to get heavy ammo, block entrance). Melee is slower than hunter's, but stronger. Has better granades than hunter. Supers are good. No problem with warlock movement (PC! Don't now how it works with controller). Cannot say much about exotics.

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              • I main a warlock in pvp and the only thing I wanted was lance nova bomb.

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              • Simply bring back self res

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                • I main a warlock for pvp. I only look forward to making my build more synergistic and canceling out whole teams. We got nothing good for us and if we hold our own through skill it means a lot. Bungie will hopefully give us something good again. QP= Warlock Comp= Titan or Hunter.

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                • Bottom tree dawnblade with transversive steps are the way to go, all I run.

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                • Our exotics and skills are non pvp friendly...always have to think two steps ahead of other classes. To main warlock for pvp means you are awesome...I main warlock myself.

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                • Edited by killa beaver: 9/16/2019 12:33:41 PM
                  I think most warlocks exotics and supers are pretty well balanced, BUT..... bottom tree nova bomb needs a blast radius buff and shatter + devour with nova bomb kill + better armor in super. Nova warp is still fundamentally flawed in its attack animation and charge time. you’re a sitting duck that can’t dodge/teleport or do anything for the 2.3 seconds you’re charging and the .5 second release animation that causes a explosion. Oh and ophidians need it’s reload cap and handling cap removed.

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                  • Edited by Infamous067: 9/16/2019 9:18:59 PM
                    Im talking about pvp here: Warlocks have been in a bad spot since D2 released, there is a reason warlocks have gotten buffs over the years. Only class that ever got nerfed hard was nova warp for obvious reasons but bungie as always destroyed the class instead of actually balancing it, even now its pretty bad. Now well of radiance is getting nerfed because its the best thing on pve, after the nerf its going to be tough using a warlock over other classes. Hunters may not have the best stuff for pve unless its nightstalker but pvp is something they have always done right. Titans are amazing on pvp and are now going to be really good for pve, where does that leave warlocks? Not good in pvp and on pve they will be a shadow of what they used to be. Thankfully I had a hunter as my backup class in case this would happen so I’m good.

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                    • [quote]Please note I say this from a PVP perspective and concerning the future of Warlocks in PVP.[/quote] Three jumps. Two underused if not at all. You would think some variety in its movement or some small buffs to the exotics would be amazingly welcome.

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                      • Edited by Babajeeds: 9/16/2019 1:14:43 PM
                        1 word: Blink. Warlocks by far have the most diversity in terms of abilities, as well as mobility.

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