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originally posted in: Best PVE weapons behind glory ranks
7/14/2019 7:12:50 PM
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My question is why don’t we get Glory points from Quickplay wins? I mean valour is valour and it’ll still reward you regardless of win or loss. But Glory should be counted everywhere in the Crucible. Well actually both should be. Idk but I know a lot of people that are competitive and play comp to get their weapons then they jump to quick play and never look back. I know that the clan I’m in prefers to go quickplay as we’re a pretty sizeable clan. But honestly though I’ve got more wins with them in quickplay then I’m comp with randoms. Maybe if it was Quickplay ranked and Quickplay... but even still why does it matter? I mean just the fact that we’re playing other players should count. Some people never touch Crucible. And shouldn’t the weapons be something to encourage people to play in an area that they otherwise would never touch? I see a lot of gripe over this from PvE players and casual PvP players. I feel em, and I hope that Bungie does toy around with Crucible a little more and hopefully tweak the weapons quests. Maybe by doing three valour resets to replace the demands of glory? Idk. It’s in Bungie hands and hopefully they are monitoring the situation.
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  • Because glory is a rank, not a level.

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  • Restricting ones “skill” to a 4v4 is silly. Rank should track your overall skill. Valour tracks only the amount you’ve played and says nothing of how good you are.

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  • That’s how comp is in most games. Quickplqy is just that a Quick and meaningless mode, there is no rank based matchmaking. In comp you get matched with people of the same rank, hence the name.

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  • And it’d still be effected wherever you play in Crucible. It’s still a rank. It’s just another gage that measures your “skill.” But your skill isn’t restricted to a 4v4 game type. Valour is a level. It purely measures the amount you’ve played but not your “skill.” Understand?

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  • Lastly why aren’t light level advantages turned on and the game try’s to match you within that light level?

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  • Edited by THE SARGE 01: 7/15/2019 1:32:03 PM
    Because the top players could go into the playlist geared up in all white gear and still bash heads in. Power level does not denote skill. It only measures the amount of time you play the game and how closely you follow chase power leveling.

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  • This aint it chief

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  • Just asking as I think the most competitive game type in Crucible is Iron Banner. Players that actually play the game and max out characters should get some kinda advantage for grinding there way up.

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  • The reason why we don't get glory points for casual pvp is precisely that, its casual pvp. Having light level matter for an event keeps it interesting and also means that its not a handout for loot (something you are clearly asking for) Valor is a time investment Glory IS skill. It separates the playerbase with a clearly defined line, this guy is better than you and he earnt his way to the top. You want glory? Go and get it. Don't like the way the system is, be better. Thats what myself and my clan did and we are better for it. My friend you are talking to, he just earned mountain top today, no cheese, shear hard work thats akin to a grind. Something this game gets right. You put in the time (for a garunteed piece of loot) it will be something special. Quit asking for handouts and undermining the ones who put in the TIME and the EFFORT in the process cause thats what you are doing. Maybe you want the next raid exotic to come from the story mission as well... Kappa

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  • Thanks for assuming I’m some SJW. Seriously you don’t know me. And frankly I’m not asking for a hand out. Im asking for an adjustment to the system. I’m not saying hey -blam!- it give it to everyone. No, I’m saying go play and earn it. PvP is not casual. So stfu. So I’m exactly on par with you jack. Take your head out your rear and read what I’m saying not what you think I’m meaning. You still gotta earn it. Holy crap you’re dumber then the Bible Belt crybabies I went to school with, hell they spoke like damned Ned Flanders but they sure had more brains than you. Omg kid. Read. -blam!-ing read.

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  • Edited by Doregen Kibo: 7/15/2019 4:39:38 PM
    1. Didn't assume anything, its how you portrayed yourself 2.you are asking for a handout, no matter how you spin, glory in quickplay is a handout, Don't care if its 1 point or like for like 3.quickplay is casual, tryhards just go to town in there where in competitive they actually have a challenge 4.you are not on par with me, if you were, you'd attempt reason instead of insults, i came at you cause you started on my buddy (clan mates and all). 5.what would be an intelligent solution to your idea would be to treat like claymore/broadsword, don't mix valor with glory. They're meant to be two separate point values. That show opponents how skillful they potentially can be. 6. Pvp has always been get good or get out for the last 5 years. Your view on comp is marred, its meant to be the toughest pvp in the game, AND IT IS. Quickplay is not, for some its a weekly ritual, others? To pass the time, you don't go to comp to chill, you to win.. and only win... 7. Carries don't have anything to do with this, Carries, paid or not, are a sperate issue. 8. Obtained in all playlists, is a handout, earn your loot don't beg. Now step off

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  • They are. They still would be. But you have no clue as to how to read. Now go back simpleton and read. Thank you.

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  • Proved my point that you are not open to another point of view. I even suggested an alternative that wouldn't be alienated but clearly you cant read unless someone agrees with you. Enjoy the mute

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  • You’re disagreeing on purpose. You skimmed to get the just or the point completely ignoring the explanation. Then came to the conclusion that I was looking for a handout. Then you continue to not go back and read. I got your point”get gud lazy scrub” And that’s not even the issue. If there is anyone here not reading it would be you. But you are honestly a waste of my time.

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  • Its as simple as, they’re competitive pinnacle weapons for a reason, they’re meant to be a challenge to get and thats kinda the fun in them, i got mountaintop today after countless hours of grinding the double kills, and getting my final double kill was an amazing feeling, if people were able to get glory points in quickplay everyone would have been running around with not forgotten before the nerf, i know i’m not skilled enough to get not forgotten and i probably never will get it but the people who do have it, shows they are seriously skilled at pvp, and asking for comp points in quickplay is, in a way kinda disrespectful to them.

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  • But... asking for glory points in quickplay because you can’t get the guns in comp... IS asking for a handout. I’ve read the whole thing and i see what you mean, but you ARE asking for a handout.

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  • Just because it’s called Quickplay doesn’t mean it’s not competitive. I even said Quickplay ranked as a game type option. Quickplay currently is like going 150 mph in a school area that has signs saying max 50 mph. Quickplay isn’t all noobs and blueberries and squeakers. You and I’m not saying to make Glory exactly like Valour. I’m saying keep it the same as it is. Just have it track across all Crucible game types. Or are arrogant lone wolf comp players scared of running into big bad coordinated competitive teams? It’s not a handout. Perhaps for you it is, but so is getting carried or paying someone to get you recluse. Either way.

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  • Like geek said paid carries are a separate issue and what you’re doing is asking for a handout because you can’t get the weapons, but hey i’ll just leave you to it man whatever complaint makes you feel good about yourself for not being able to get a weapon.

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  • I believe that I’m not being understood here. I agree with you. But Crucible is not casual. PvE is casual. When you got Competitive players with all the best toys in what you call a “casual” playlist then it’s no longer a casual playlist. It’s literally get good or get out. And if it’s get good or get out then it’s competitive. And if it’s then competitive then we should be getting Glory for our wins. After all even competitive isn’t competitive if you can get carried to earning these weapons. And if you’re getting carried and it has nothing to do with personal skill then these weapons as rewards for players that have actual skill becomes pointless. As it has nothing to do with skill. And if it has nothing to do with skill then it should be attainable in all Crucible playlists. And if it’s attainable through all playlists then it evens the field. And if it evens the field then it becomes truly competitive as everyone is now on equal footing. Then it’s about power ammo and map control to dictate wether or not you got skill. #LogicTrumps

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  • Maybe i dunno a weekly bounty that awards a few glory and valour points? Just an idea

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  • There we go someone who’s a creative and balanced thinker. I like this idea.

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  • Thanks but im not XD i just remember it from someones comment on the forums ages ago

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  • This most certainly aint it chief

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