nah, all fine.. just dont play during blackout, since thats the only data that bungie will abide by.. and no matchmaking will have the "playlist" die out , well knowing that there is none.. nah. the biggest and most problematic thing is: there is no reason to play that and go through the pain of trying to find a team that neither sucks nor sets up the standard "MKWTD must have 250000+ clears, will check raidreport" bullcrap.. i do understand where the players that set up those requirements are coming from but thats the wrong angle.. all those mechanics have been tested and tuned to fit the PC version of the game where you can snipe with the recluse across the map and do constant damage to any enemy cross map with a machine gun .. (and sadly i am not even making this shlt up, just see some videos and compare the "2 manned XXX" or "solo guide to XXZ" for entries that go with the pc versus console.. PC is a complete different game. and the modes need to be tuned differently. so back to managerie heroic: - enemies are 30 LL over you whic means that "YAY" the developers have run out of ideas to actually make content more difficult and reverted to just make enemies more bullet spongy.. cool, not.. - encounters are absolutely the same.. *great - your a$$ gets booted to orbit.. -.- oh wait.. its not the issue that you have to start over.. its that you are send OUTSIDE the game activity !. faling is okay. no problem with that.. wiping becaus eall of your team is dead is COMPLETELY OKAY! whats not okay is that you will have to get back into the activity and load in all over.. just return the fireteam to the freaking start and we are good here. - blackout .. well okay just screw that.. -.- you couldnt be bothered to invent at elast ONE modifyer for that thing -.- - loot.. LOL.. i really.. no.. just no.. "loot" is the fuel for an activity.. and where reckonign at least had some minor halfa$$ed weapons and mods , the menagerie has literally nothing new.. apart from an emblem that noone cares and a damn ugly cheap patched on turf ship. yeaaah! no. not yea.. in fact the three swords that can drop and some masterworked stuff that really is not that great is not worth putting in the time to run.. put in Lunas howl as a random drop and you just have to deal with the saltstream from the whiney, crying pvp crowd while you will have all those PvE players that would suddenly flock to this activity since they could not be bothered to pierce their balls.. err i mean play competitive and reach a gory rank in the meanwhile near impossible without streamer P2W support crowd ..legend region.. ( i mix those two activities so often since both of them are simply equaliy painfull and mind numbing dull ) and to the pvp crowd? what? its not like the PvE guys would use it in PvP ? or? and its not that "big of a deal anyway" since "only skillz matterz" isnt it? so dont -blam!- your pants pvp you are safe in there .. noone wants to go there sicne its like toxic wasteland for non sweats =) so back to menagerie again: Dear Bungie, you just put out a new mode thats been sentenced to death by boredom, lack of incentive and lack of accessibility =) sincerely the Reckoning tier 3 -

But you can get swords in the loot pool. These are absolutely ideal for running up to a boss and being stomped back into next week 👍 🤦‍♂️

"Just use LFG!!!" "Must have 10+ clears, be 750+ (why the +? Are you stupid?), emblem or kick, die = kick" .... 2 hours after release. And you guys wonder why people don't like LFG. Toxic cesspool is why.

Oh no god forbid you get sent back to orbit if you die, you clearly never played d1 where that was the case with the nightfall every week and no one complained about it. Suck it up an retry it if you lose or don’t even attempt it at all no one is forcing you to do it and therein lies one of the biggest problems with this game in d1 you were forced to do the nightfall/raid every week if you wanted to reach the max light level, in d2 everything is basically handed to players on a silver platter. Hell you could literally only do the flashpoint every week and eventually hit max power level if you wanted, there isn’t enough gameplay barriers in this game when compared to d1 and I honestly think that’s what lead to the vile community we now have because people think they’re top shit just cause they know how to do the raid and only want others that also know how to do it to join them. Newsflash: congratulations you put in extra unnecessary work and time to reach the same level as everyone that doesn’t raid. Want a bigger player base? Make endgame content the only way to achieve max power level. Want to unify the player base? Make endgame content the only way to achieve max power level. I for one loved helping out first timers with the raids in d1 because not only did it give me a sense of accomplishment for taking on the challenge of a harder raid due to first timers not knowing what they were doing but also because I knew I was letting those first timers get a taste of what the game is really all about: the endgame.

Well I think they should make Menagerie Clan and LFG only... Can't take the risk. As a matter of fact, why are you allowed to even fly into any planet without a Clan or a group? Everything should be Clan - LFG only, as bungie and the hard cores really want it to be. I take it back, no LFG anymore either... Just Clans, if you're not in a clan, you can't play... Yeah, that's the ticket.

Already have 3 clears on this.. its easier then you think.. the boss just takes forever to kill but its possible. luna wells and tractor with swarm downs all bosses simply. i got the izanamis catalyst first pull :)

You're really underestimating how good some people are at this game.

I feel like you're being a -blam!-. You want easy end game content? Sure, take it. Because once you get the cata, there is LITERALLY no reason to play that ever again. I exchange, don't complain about the next end game content that's actually good.

Might just be me but... Extinguish is what I've been wanting back as a mandatory modifier for nightfalls, I'm so happy it's back in a harder activity, for once in this game we can have a challenge!