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7/16/2018 6:59:20 PM
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POSSIBLE Disappointments (lore-wise) in Forsaken

<No bullshit, let's just kick off the list of things that would be disappointed if they did/didn't happen. 1. [b]Uldren Not Dying[/b] - Despite Prince -blam!- being the primary antagonist of the DLC, there's a small likelihood that he won't die. 2. [b]Cayde-6 Being Cayde-7[/b] - While this initially doesn't sound so disappointing, Exo reboots don't work that way and his Ghost is properly dead. If this happened, then this would be the 4th or 5th thing that went against both games' lore. 3. [b]No Mara Sov[/b] - The Queen of the Reef needs some kind of appearance. 4. [b]Easy-to-hunt Barons[/b] - There are 8 Barons and Uldren to go after in the story. That being said, each one shouldn't be a throwaway boss, as each are being set up as having their own feel. They shouldn't be that easy to kill either. 5. [b]No Variks/Dead Variks[/b] - Self-explanatory. 6. [b]Vague-ness and lack of Explanations[/b] - This was arguably the biggest story issue of CoO and Warmind. Many story elements in the two would've been a lot better if things were properly explained instead of being cryptic for the sake of being cryptic, lookin' at you Exo Stranger. 7. [b]Savathun Dying[/b] - It's pretty obvious that Savathun, the Witch Queen, is pulling the strings of this operation. Whether it's manipulating Uldren Sov directly or through Mara. That being said, there's still one more DLC after this one that takes place on the Dreadnaught. Also, Savathun is being set up to be the endgame of Destiny 2. Having her die here would leave DLC4 completely up to interpretation and get rid of at least 12 good potential plotlines. 8. [b]Quria Being a Raid Boss[/b] - This would be more of a disappointment just to me. Why? Because Quria also comes with a few good potential plotlines. 9. [b]Cringe-worthy Dialogue[/b] - If Warmind taught me anything-... nope, nevermind. It's self-explanatory. 10. [b]The Lie[/b] - Forsaken is supposed to be a darker narrative. So far it seems to be that way. If it isn't... well I don't know. 11. [b]No Info on The Collapse[/b] - Seriously, the past 2 DLCs have been triggering me with the lack of Collapse info, the comics even more so. The Reef is another perfect place to delve into what happened during the Collapse, even if it's not as much as the other two. Just... SOMETHING. ANYTHING! Mixed: 1. [b]Mara Sov Being an Enemy[/b] - This whole thing depends on how it's done. 2. [b]Ahamkara Raid Boss[/b] - This also depends on how it's done, because honestly it's barely making sense to me. 3. [b]The Return of Petra and Variks[/b] - They were actually pretty likable and the only Reef characters outside of the Sovs to have personalities. It would be a shame if suddenly Brother Vance. 4. [b]The Spider[/b] - Again, all depends on what happens. So far I think he's going to be the best planetary vendor by default... but if Brother Vanc- 5. [b]Uldren Sov[/b] - There are villains who people HATE but also enjoy. Felix from Red vs Blue is a good example. We already hate Uldren, but he can turn out to be a really good villain, too. On the other hand, we could just hate him and nothing else... 6. [b]The Size of the Crashed Hive Warship[/b] - Another personal thing. Haven't seen it fully yet so this one's in this section. 7. [b]No Voice[/b] - While generally considered a negative, if they don't put our characters in those kinda cutscenes, then things will be a lot easier to accept. List anything else below.>

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  • Edited by Alföðr: 7/24/2018 8:23:32 AM
    Maybe the Emissary is actually the Queen and the Nine struck a deal with Uldren on the basis that if he wiped us out, then he'd get his sister back. He doesn't really have a better reason for fighting against a city full of God-like beings. Or maybe Uldren made a deal with another Ahamkara, one who wields the powers of the Darkness, in order to get his sister back from the Nine, or help bring her back to life. This would be a good way to bring in the Ahamkara Raid Boss (which would be soooo cool). I'm pretty sure that we will kill Uldren in the end. Bungie would get alot of sh*t even though they are used to it. I'd only be content with someone else doing it if was the Queen resurrected as a Guardian, and she didn't know that Uldren was her brother. That would make for some dark sh*t.

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    • This may be old news but Petra Venj can be seen on one of the screens in the forsaken ViDoc at around 2:48.

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      • Cayde-6 will not be Cayde-7. First off his ghost is dead so he couldn't revive and a reboot couldn't revive him either. It's already been confirmed by Bungie that Cayde-7 will never happen.

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        • How is it "possible" disappointments with this crew?

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          • Question, Who is the spider?

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            • Is the dreadnaught DLC free? Or are they having us front $30 for the annual pass and then forking out more dough when that comes out? Money isn't the issue for me, it's the principle. Don't call something an annual pass if it doesn't cover a year's content.

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              • I honestly don't think we will get to kill uldren. It will be some cutscene and either uldren killing himself or another party taking the kill. And i vote zavala doing savathun bidding who will kill uldren to prevent him letting slip zavala not on our side anymore

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                • Last time I set the bar really low and they still underperformed. Nothings changed since Vanilla D2. CoO might as well have not even happened. Warmind changed things a little...with Rasputin being fully awake...tossing us a few weapons...then telling us to -blam!- off as he has no equal despite almost getting crushed by an over grown Graboid that barely got out of bed.

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                • [i][b]"POSSIBLE Disappointments"[/b][/i] The moment you had expectations, you set yourself up for disappointment. If the game doesn't measure up to what you think it should be, or what you want it to be, it's going to be a disappointment in your eyes. And like so many that post on these forums crying their woes and anguish over how this game let them down, they all fundamentally ignore the fact it started with their own personal expectations and wants...

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                  • Watch this be the house of wolves raid that we never got.

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                    • Well, its bungie. So I don't really have my hopes up. Both Rise of iron and Destiny 2 was a big let down for me.

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                      • This whole game is one big dissapointment

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                      • Bungie dev already said on Twitter that there will be an adventure that we do for and interact with variks. He also let slip that the raid boss is female. Make of that what you will. Also, another protagonist that we love to hate would be handsome jack in borderlands 2 and his downfall in the pre sequel.

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                        • Everyone knows whats going to happen if the Guardian gets voiced.... This forum will just be choked up with "NOT MY GUADIANS VOICE", "PETITION TO MAKE GUADIAN SILENT AGAIN", "Please hire different voice actors Bungie, they are not what my Guardian sounds like" topics for the rest of time. Lets face it, this community hates every decision Bungie makes, so lets just leave it alone.

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                          • We already know that Variks will return, just not in a form that we can predict (villain? maybe). I hope the Raid isn't just Taken, since we know it's not Scorn-based. I assume it will be Fallen, but a mix of Fallen and Taken would be nice. I do hope we see exactly what Mara's been planning. I really liked House of Wolves story because it felt thematically like a middle chapter in a book, raising new questions and setting up the climax (Oryx) nicely, so I hope we get the same vibe on a grand scale. I wouldn't mind Quria being the final raid boss if they explained it in enough detail and used him to set up the arrival of Savathûn.

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                            • Why not wait to play it before bitching about it! Life is so good for you, you've got nothing left to bitch about? Get over yourself and your assumptions ;)

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                              • I’d be disappointed if we do not see Uldren and Cayde make out atleast once. I mean, why else would he want to kill him in a jealous rage??

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                                • There is zero chance we aren't going to be put into a situation where our character has to vocalize, and doesn't.

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                                • Not even out yet and looking for disappointment?

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                                  • Now we’re going to be Future Negative Nancy’s? Do us all a favor and uninstall the app and the game....

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                                    • Whould really suck if Nathan Fillion isn’t the voice of Cayde in Forsaken and even worse if he was replaced by Nolan North (Though I like him as our ghost) instead. Oh, what’s that you say? He was replaced. Aww dayyum.

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                                    • You forgot story missions being turned into strikes.

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                                    • Right off the bat, I disagree that Uldren dying is a must. Half the problems the story writers encounter stem from losing villans. I mean, we're just cycling through Hive. The Son. Then the Father. What next? Oh yeah, the sister. Sigh. I'm not against Uldren dying per se, but I'd be perfectly fine with him surviving to pester us another day. I mean, no matter how many times Batman beats the Joker, 9 times out of 10, the next time there is a Joker storyline it's better than anything the rest of the Rogue's gallery has to offer. I'm not saying Uldren is the Joker, but he IS "hot" right now. At least ride his infamy out for awhile.

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                                      • Good points, But It will sufficiently annoy me if Bungie is going to be making a Destiny 3 right after the dreadnaught expansion. Like, common. Just make DLCs for the one game. I wanna play the 10 year plan thing or whatever. And it feels like this game is moving really quick. I really don’t want to have to have another beginning of D2 event when D3 comes out. I want to feel progression. Which means, not starting from square one often.

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                                        • You raised some fair points. The DLC has the potential to set the franchise back on track, but Bungie’s own history puts a dark cloud over the possibility. Here’s to hoping.

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                                          The barons won't be stronger than xol

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