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Edited by Spawn: 4/28/2018 1:45:44 PM
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Guided Games: The Silent Treatment (TL;DR at bottom) @Bungie @Cozmo @DeeJ @dmg_04

Are you tired of playing solo?! Did all your friends quit playing Destiny?! Are those pesky LFG requirements too much for you?! Are you sick of always using an in-app feature to find in-game teams?! Do you just want ease-of-access and a hassle-free experience?! Well, well, well... I have a solution for you!!! Introducing, Guided Games!!! A completely useless and heavily time consuming feature that nobody f***ing uses!!! This feature can be yours for only about 4.00 hours of your time!!! Okay, okay, okaaaaay. My bad, Bungie. But hey, at least I know you guys can take a joke! Aha .. ha ... heh ...... [spoiler]inb4 I'm moved to feedback for poor humor :'([/spoiler] Sooooo, Guided Games is just going to continue receiving the silent treatment, huh? All these magnificent changes, yet one of the most flawed features with the most potential just gets ignored? I'm noticing a lot of discussion about solo players, and how it is exceptionally aggravating and time consuming to find a group. While you can just use the in-app LFG, some people find that to be a hassle and rather unfair at times. But don't worry, this could possibly be the solution this game needs. [spoiler]That's if you guys really are listening...[/spoiler] Guided Games should function as an [i]optional[/i] basic matchmaking feature for any and all players to build a Fireteam for any and all end-game activities (Trials, Raids, Strikes, ect., [i]INCLUDING[/i] Prestige activities). Let's call it "Finding Games" instead for now. Players who launch Finding Games will be matched with other players searching in that same activity. However, in order to search for a team in Finding Games, you must meet the minimum requirements for any non-prestige activity, and meet the recommended requirements for any prestige activity. This feature would be completely optional and at your disposal with no hassle. Just click and wait until your Fireteam is full. However, if you choose to use this feature you are taking a chance at finding either an experienced team or an inexperienced team. That is the risk of matchmaking. But hey, if you're looking to build a team with experience, skill, and coordination instead, there's always the in-app LFG feature! This way everybody has options and a sense of freedom. [b][u]_______________________[/u][/b] [b]Features and solutions to avoid possible problems and trolling . . .[/b] > All non-prestige end-game activities will require the minimum requirements for matchmaking. - All prestige end-game activities will require the recommended requirements for matchmaking. > Smaller Fireteams can queue in Finding Games to fill any empty player spots for that desired activity. > When matchmaking Raids and Trials, you will be matched with other Guardians who are at the same checkpoint as you. Some matches may take longer to find because of that. > Fireteam Leader is chosen at random. - Fireteam Leader can NOT kick players. - Fireteam members collectively vote on who to kick, if needed. > All Fireteam members are automatically opted-into Fireteam chat. - It is completely up to the player whether or not to use a mic and/or communicate. (However, the Fireteam can vote to kick you if you choose not to.) - Players who leave will be punished from accessing the Finding Games feature, similar to that of leaving a Crucible match. - Players who are kicked will receive no punishments. - Players who are kicked or leave will be replaced with a new Guardian whom is matchmaking for that same activity (or checkpoint). I included a TL;DR because when it comes to descriptive, articulate feedback and recommendations that require lengthy reading, Bungie is illiterate. Look below for TL;DR. [b]TL;DR -[/b] Replace Guided Games with a basic matchmaking feature for any and all players to build/find a Fireteam in any and all end-game activities. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in.  [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]

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  • You lost me at fire team leader can't kick. No mic, see ya. Afk in the middle of an encounter, or without notice, see ya. Being a complete douche, see ya. Voting changes nothing. Last thing we want is to pick one or two up, and then get stuck with the afk troll master as fire team leader..

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  • I actually am one of the people who run nightfalls in guided games to help get people through it and raid not so much cause people never really listen to you when you really do it but what i really want to see from bungie is fare matches for (Trials of the nine) and custom games so friends can just have fun in crucible like d1 and we would be able to play our old game modes that my youtube channel always posted which was hide and seek, snipers only challenge, and elimination clan members vs clan members. Above all hoping for great playtime in guided games with people Add gt KSI LT Frost to have fun with me and my clan mates.

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  • Bump :)

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  • I honestly forgot guided games existed

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    • 20+ 3rd party LFG apps/websites/discords and there all barren with the odd post ( on PC ), if it was consolidated in-game people could form groups np, even a simple LFG chat channel would be great :D

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      • Bump x1000

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        • I always ask myself this question, why does pvp have matchmaking? Trials has no matchmaking but is no different to any other team focused pvp mode, why is this? Optional matchmaking for everything I say. Please don’t anyone kid themselves about raids, I’ve had my fair share of bu11$h1t with hand picked teams. Please consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word “optional” before you come crying on this post. Bump your post.

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          • Edited by error37: 4/28/2018 10:57:23 AM
            My personal perspective is that the #1 issue with the Guided Games feature is not even the waiting times. The main issue that makes this feature so unattractive is the fact that Destiny 2 apparently has no way to queue for something, while still letting you play other activities. If I could queue for the Nightfall while still playing open world activities and just get a notification once a group has been found, I would start using it right now. World of Warcraft has this feature for over 10 years now, and although it's definitely a design challenge to implement this into a console UI, I believe it's totally possible.

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            • I'm behind optional matchmaking as long as the difficulty doesn't get decreased. But I don't understand how hard it is to find a group? LFG post are spilling into the feedback section. Guided games could use some work but just like in game chat if nobody's using it it won't work.

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              • Guided Games = Folklore

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              • Edited by MoonlightHare: 4/28/2018 3:22:12 PM
                Yes, this. Great ideas which would help everyone who wanted to do end game content with the minimum of fuss. Bungie, however, are far too invested in their ‘safe space’ mentality to do it. I have been pushing on this forum for the longest time for OMM with no acknowledgement or response. Apparently it was discussed at the Summit but as paying customers I suspect that we will be the last to know what was said. I have no idea who of the, or how much, attendees pushed for OMM. ( I believe that Lost Sols mentioned it but of course no attendee is allowed to discuss it) Consequently I suspect that Bungie will bring in an even more complex Guided Games system which by it’s very nature is due to fail. The people who attended the Summit would never have a problem getting full team so I suspect that it’s ‘I’m alright Jack’. The decision to use an OMM system should be with those who need to use it

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                • Agreed. When I first heard about GG I was excited. Now I'm just disappointed.

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                  • Yea I enjoy waiting 4 hours for a nightfall.

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                    • My clan will run 3 to 6 guided NFs often. Just need more willing to pay it forward. More matchmaking in this game isn't the best idea for everything. If I need a quest for the exotic masterwork upgrade stage 2. I don't think it needs it's own matchmaking.

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                      • Edited by D2_Dahaka_PAL: 4/29/2018 9:32:28 AM
                        Guided games is a joke, why can’t i be a guide with other non-clan members? May as well have a match-making option along side an in-game lfg like function, Bungie is trying to re-invent the wheel.

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                        • This has been moved to Feedback...

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                        • Thy need an in game LFG service. Xbox has this and it is great. Matchmaking, however, is not the answer.

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                        • Guided games and social dynamics within Destiny are still being worked on. We're not hearing about that aspect of the game right now because the actual content and changes players want there is the top priority at the moment.

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                          • Edited by TheShadow-cali: 4/28/2018 5:03:28 PM
                            NO! not that i'm saying that but this game is created so gamers spend (time) playing this game. D1 vanilla was created the same way for the sole purpose of keeping gamers around. Bungie knows D2 is far worse off then D1 ever was and to add a feature to where everyone can complete all the endgame activities with no effort on looking for groups in this game Bungie thought about it way before D2 was released. More gamers will leave this game if that happens and Bungie will not have none of that. Asking for easy access to all endgame content is something I can guarantee will never happen. Especially when there isn't enough content in this game to be adding a feature like that in the first place. Edit: I don't ever do this but why not lol. Anyone can downvote this thread all you want, have at it :) but you want to know a little secret? [spoiler]It's still not going to change that fact that Bungie will [b](Never do this.)[/b] Must suck for some of you to know it's me pointing out that Fact. So like I said, have at it lol...[/spoiler]

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                            • I have the answer! If you are an active mic using D2 gamer you can ask to join the 1st. Marine Battalion. A large active outfit of gamers. Vets welcomed. Please no little kids. Semper Fi. Lt. Elhew Commanding Officer.

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                              • Any risk you take with matchmaking is exactly the same as lfg, if you lfg, your still getting the same outcome albeit it takes more time to lfg and it definitely takes more time and the team is as is whether or not, it will work or it won’t and you disband, no difference what so ever other than it being a waste of my time and should be catered for in game! It’s a gate and that’s all it is and needs to be opened sooner rather than later, I wouldn’t have left if o was still getting into the end game content but no, there is no way in game other than standing in the tower for hours on end, it’s still a game breaker for me!!!

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                                • [b]Cozmo:[/b] I'll pass this along at the next meeting. [spoiler]Never to be heard from again[/spoiler]

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                                  • us gamers relize they went merry popping on us, and it sucks. they took good franchise idea and went all wtf .

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                                    • [b]Dmg04:[/b] Great idea. [spoiler]Never to be heard from again[/spoiler]

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                                      • [b]DeeJ:[/b] Where am I? [spoiler]Seriously though... Where am I? Could have sworn I logged into Twitter[/spoiler]

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                                        • Bumping until I internally combust from excessive sodium intake.

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