You want to talk about a left behind class, look at the striker. Yeah it's fine for now, I think all Titan subclasses are, I still enjoy the sunbreaker because it has a synergistic advantage over the striker (fleet fire and cauterize are still excellent together) But the striker actually has, a very sad history in the past. Save for grenades, strikers were always among the best class entirely, flash bangs were unmatched for pve and we all know the stories of lightning grenades in pvp But the rest is just, upsetting. Strikers year 1, pre dark below, strikers storm fist was fine for pve but did absolutely nothing for pvp and it wouldn't for a long long time. Discharge was the worst ability in the game, to make it work, an enemy had to be killed and even then the chance wouldn't always land to activate it, obviously bungie didn't think this through when brimstone on sunsingers worked just fine, by killing, all the time! Strikers were not wanted for raids, others felt shoulder charge was op because of its instant kill property and wanted stuff like the hunter throwing knives to be instant kills on head shots. Yet most forgot thst shoulder charge was a risk reward deal. Yet it became much more risk as a mets developed. A meta plagued by shotguns and hand cannons. After the dark below, or when house of wolves came out, enter the ram. Shoulder charge became more situational than ever. Add other abilities to the striker like juggernaut and unstoppable which were so specific to make a difference. It just felt, hindering. I still cannot accept unstoppable even with 2 extra armor. It's just not that useful. Then came the taken King, and with sunbreakers, we all know the story. But for pve, I was crying I was happy, this felt like what the striker should have been year 1, a Titan class thst had damned effects and abilities. It had synergy, and still has this advantage over the striker. its abilities, stoke the forge, thermal vent, sunstrike, cauterize, fleet fire, all had actual purposes and outclassed overload, discharge, transfusion, and others by miles. Sunstrike actually still worked in pvp as well To me as a Titan player, I was embarrassed it took bungie this long, this long to realize the striker was only essentially half baked and then sent it back to give more actual effects to talents like better sprint/turning with headstrong, make overload cut down the cool down on storm fist, increase storm fists effect in pvp, but not so thst it renders shoulder charge out of a job, swords made juggernaut useful. But still it remains a fact. I can still heal, benefit from holding onto my super, have the luxury of range, and anytime I kill with said abilities, I can freely advance or retreat anytime with fleet fire. Otherwise I could also settle on buffing the super to be homing or more explosive, all these work. I still mainly play sunbreaker and defender, striker still just doesn't cut it for me when one has synergy and the other is very limited with it.

Apparently Titans like all kinds of walls, including those made of text. Line breaks are your friend! Seriously, though, Striker titans are in a [u]really[/u] good place right now, and a lot of the issues with Arcblade and Sunbreaker come down to the overall crap hit detection so that's more important to fix than nerfing something else to compensate for glitchyness (which would be stupid).

Hunters will ALWAYS ve relevant unless they completely nerf the whole class to the ground. I do think they could've done more Stormcaller thou. Titans need a big buff, I feel like they're kinda useless at times.

Well,my fellow Titan since you are talking from your own experience I shall do the same. I main a Voidwalker.Never been a good PvP player and propably never will.But I've picked up the game these last 2 months or so and player more PvP than I did before. The 3 most used Supers I had to face these past 2 months were Blades,Hammers and Storms (I am talking general,not just Trials).And the most effective one is (guess what) the nerfed Hammers.Blades and Hammers are a win/lose situation for me. Storms on the other hand it is way easier to shut down (most of the times). So,we have actually different experiences in PvP. You say that you barely see Hammers in PvP while I see them all the time and people using them are pretty sucessfull.So from my point of view what you are saying is wrong. But in order to tell whats overused or OP we should check the stats.And (correct me if I am wrong) the most succesfull-used PvP class are the Hunters. Now if those grenades are that big of a problem for you I dont know what to say. Imo every class/subclass has its cons and pros.If one would be too OP then everyone would be using that one in PvP,dont you think?