Not very one has or can afford supper fast internet that costs more than my tuition. I usually yellow bar and I know of many people that have the same problem and cannot change that. The crucible is the only reason that most of us come back to this ghost town and you are suggesting that we just stop letting them play. What would you do if you had bad internet and could not afford the latest package from verizon? Would you take one for the team?
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Edited by Weaselking: 1/10/2016 10:44:17 PMIf you read the post not once is yellow bar mentioned. Read carefully. It's all about red bar. Which is labeled as "bad" when you checked connection status. Even yellow bar reads as "good" As for my connection. Well I have five xboxs in my house running so yes I pay for that connection. Does it cost a lot. Yes it does. But if you want to enjoy something and it is a hobby. You spend a large amount to be able to enjoy it. Not because I have the money to. Because I want to get the most out of the games I play
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One red and yellow are replaceable becuase what you suggested would cripple people with both. Two I have books, tuition, groceries, power, water, electricity, phone, cable, internet, and credit cards to pay for on top of taxes and insurance. And you say drop everything and make 200 an hour if you want to play destiny I spent 110 dollars on this game. I have the right to play despite my shity internet
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Congratulations you went from a decent discussion to a pointless one about your "shitty" internet Fact is everyone has bills. Welcome to the thing called grown up life. Been there done that and still there like everyone else. Personally I don't care about your bills. I have my own. Which if you want to point the discussion this way then let's take this direction. Anyone who purchased the game is entitled to the actual full game and proper service that comes with the game. Which in fact means it should by standard be fully functional and working correctly. So. If I sight on a target and pull the trigger they should take damage. If they do not ether I am a bad shot. Or they are lagging and did not take damage. So should I be happy and just accept the fact that something is wrong and not suggest it be fixed? As any person with common sense would say as an answer. No. As you keep tossing your college into it lets put it into context of college. Would you be just fine and accept going to class and sitting there as the professor sat at the front and ignored the class teaching nothing. His only reply was to point at the course books and nothing else? I seriously doubt it. Bungie stated a while back. I believe two iron banners ago that they were monitoring and dealing with the lag issues. Well as good as that sounds I have yet to see evidence of this. The fix is simple. If they are red barring with a poor connection do not let them connect. Simple facts. If people are paying for a service they expect that service to work and not be broken. As an Xbox player we are required to have Xbox gold and an Internet connection. So that is a required monthly payment. So I expect to have that service working correctly. Before the comments of "the get a PlayStation". I won't get into the console wars arguement an and I already have a few play stations in the house collecting dust. If you want a service, then one way or another you have to pay for it. Nothing in life is free. And if I am paying for it then as the consumer it should be working to the advertised standards.
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Let's cut the pointless text. There is nothing any of the laggers are going to do about their internet. If you don't like go buy the world better internet of bungie dedicated servers. You certainly can afford it
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Seriously. So by making valid points this is what you can come up with? So instead of a valid conversation you choose to reply with this? Just because someone can actually plan heir finances and wants what they pay for you revert to "you can pay for it" Here is some insight kid. Fixed income and retired. So no I really don't give a rats rear end about your finances and the problems you have with them. So as this is a community section. Put forth some constructive discussion that will get the issue addressed. Try putting forth a valid counter to the complaint at hand. Instead of reverting to becoming a forum troll. Valid counter would be something along the lines of "bungie would lose player base or income if they restricted connection based on Internet connection" "I can't afford it" is valid to you.
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Edited by Impurity41: 1/11/2016 8:20:33 AMYou said that if something is a hobby then you are will to spend a lot of money for it. However gaming doesn't need to as expensive as you think. No matter if you have good or bad internet, because of some cases(I'm not a tech so I'm not even going to try and get into it) everyone will fluctuate between green and red. That in itself poses an issue that can't be forgotten. Taking some out for the benefit of the many is wrong. It is the way the world works, yes, but Bungie can't ride that bandwagon and here's why: Since everyone's Internet fluctuates at different times then anyone of your "majority players" can be kicked out the second it turns red. You may think that this process wouldn't work because if they had good connection to start then the game wouldn't boot them out of the match. But that's how it would happen for this reason: Let's say you lost connection to your own wifi. As seen with a game like gta V, once you lose connection while in multiplayer it will boot you to your own server. If my connection was fine then it wouldn't say that every random in the server left at the same time. Same for destiny. We constantly are bombarded with "beaver" connection issues. Once you lose connection [u]for 1 second[/u] you will be booted to the title after receiving a beaver or weasel connection. Since we know how sensitive destiny is now, let's look at how this bad connection issue poses that big problem. Once the game notices the connection drop to red it will boot the player out that second. Meaning the "majority players" with good connection will be booted out once that connection drops for even a second. Which means that not only are bad connection players pissed to start, but good connection players will be pissed making pvp hard. Combined with destiny's shit servers it will make pvp unplayable. If Bungie makes makes a system to kick out bad connection players, then pvp is done. End of story. If you actually read the whole thing then I thank you. [spoiler]if I'm wrong on any of this then kindly point it out. You have to admit that this answer took a lot of thinking since I connected many points together :)[/spoiler]
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Very valid points but a momentary Interrupt can be picked up and detected versus a constant low data transfer in the connection But the point you make is very valid and is also the same issue with lag switching. A lag switch basically does the same as a momentary break in connection. Basically a denial of service flood on the connection causing those breaks. But the switch is continuous and can be identified by monitoring it back to the IP and the time delay between each break. Switching has a steady pattern where a momentary is just that momentary As for people losing momentary connection that gets the weasel and baboon codes. Well that's a huge issue that bungie still has done nothing about. If they spent as much time trying to balance as they do to fixing the connection issues posts and polls like this would be unnecessary. The biggest issue with this is if the ISP or router drop the connection and reissue a new IP to that device the server will always disconnect because the IP address the initial connection was made with is different then the new one. For those that are reading and not understanding. Imagine trying to change your phone number in the middle of a phone call.