Can the op whine a little more ? just because youre a fanboy doesnt mean other people should fawn at your 'legend' mates if you cant handle critique, dont post!!!! the fact is , these guys have bypassed the raid mechanics and that is a cheese, the entire point and difficulty of the raid is not oryx or any of his minions, its the coordination required of the fireteam to complete the task. Sitting at the top of a tower not bothering with the relic, or the knight, or even the ogres before hitting oryx completely MISSES THE POINT of the checkpoint. Dont get me wrong, its cute n all & deserve props for an unusual solution, but saying they '2 manned it' is like saying ' i soloed crota (by pushing him off the cliff)' , making out like these guys should be praised for essentiallycheesing their way through it is a travesty and represents everything that is wrong with the current generation of gamers who want everything handed to them on a plate and made easy. So while im sure these guys are good players, they dont deserve any special recognition for this 'achievement', after all , any two fools with self-res can emulate this now & may have ruined the raid for every destiny player.