ok. I was impressed when slayerage did the vault of glass, when he soloed crota. but this? this is cheesing! this clan used to come up with insane new strategies to do things, strategies that would work but were nearly impossible to pull off. but they pulled them off, they not only made strategies but put them into action! If they wanted to I am 100% sure they could LEGIT solo the vault of glass, even gatekeeper!!! I don't care if that seems impossible, that used to be WHAT THEY DID! to them, impossibility wasn't a barrier, but a challenge! they inspired the destiny community to reach heights never thought possible by the rest of the community. they proved us wrong, and we enjoyed it. for once in our lives, we enjoyed being wrong! that is the kind of stuff this clan used to do!!! but now, they just refer to cheesing and cheating the game to accomplish what? to gain some stupid title. name one time anyone in this clan ever mentioned on the forums they two manned vog, soloed crota? (aside from the videos they put up of course). they didn't! they didn't do it for the title, for the fame, they didn't even do it to accomplish the impossible. they did it because they cared. they cared about this game, loved this game, were willing to devote hours on end just to have a challenge, to have fun! but now, they don't do it for any of that anymore. I hate to say it guys, but this clan has become just like bungie. riding off their past success to make themselves look better. ask yourself, if they hadn't done any of the stuff they did before this, would you find this impressive? no, you would see it as two people discovering a cheese to a boss, like so many other people have done. they now do it for the fame, the fact of being able to say "hey, we did this, praise us!" like I said earlier, I used to respect and be impressed by these people. because of them, I have been trying to devise a way of soloing the vault of glass on hard mode! for how long? on December 13th for 1 year. people told me it was impossible, insane, that I was wasting my time. people told me it was inspirational, genius, that they were amazed at what I was coming up with! I didn't listen to either, didn't care what either group had to say. I was doing it for one purpose: because it was a challenge I had given myself, and I intended, and still intend, to finish that challenge! I do it because I find it fun to use all my mental powers to discover how to beat unbeatable things, prove to fate - if such a thing as fate exists - that it was not the boss of me. because guardians make their own fate. can these men call themselves guardians now? do they make their own fates as they once did? that decision is up to you, but I say they can't. I wouldn't go so far to say they are solely doing things like this now for the fame, but I can say this as a fact: they are not the same group of people that earned my respect so long ago. whether they have improved or become worse is your choice, but I leave you with this: the bungie you knew and loved became corrupt. I am certain anyone can.