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Edited by hate n payne: 3/15/2022 7:05:05 PM
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All classes should have a normal, close range and ranged melee that is choosable like the grenades. This whole one melee concept is for the birds and the same can be said about weapons without scope options.
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  • Edited by Kurama: 3/15/2022 8:29:33 PM
    In general though- Barrels > Much prefer having barrels so you can tune the recoil direction without having counterbalance mod be necessary Adding barrels and scopes would make the rng per weapon even worse having to get a lucky pull on scope, barrel, and perks then

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  • Every weapon could just intrinsically have access to scope options like a mod slot

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  • We had both in D1 so I prefer that everyone gets a choice on both. We have enough easy mode perks that help adjust to recoil and other stats.

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  • Edited by Kurama: 3/15/2022 10:12:50 PM
    Well the only thing we have for horizontal recoil (recoil direction) which you can’t manage with like you said easy mode stability perks is barrels like arrowhead brake and the counterbalance mode. Where we had barrels in d1 was in the middle tree, so then it would be competing with good perks like hi cal, ricochet, accurized, and mags. With only having barrels you get to have recoil direction and the good range increasing perks or add some flinch which are generally useful in making the gun effective and comfortably usable (recoil direction) Basically recoil direction can me a more important stat than zoom

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  • Edited by hate n payne: 3/15/2022 10:20:30 PM
    Understandable but we gotta look at this for everybody and their playstyles as well. You enjoy barrels and what they offer, I enjoy scopes and what they offer. Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying barrel options aren’t needed or are less important, I just would prefer to have access to both. This is why I feel like they failed at Weapon Crafting because it didn’t allow you to choose the desire one whether it is scope or barrel. Honestly I was hoping Weapon Crafting to have design access, frame choice and scope/barrel options but they let me down.

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  • Oh definitely if it was in weapon crafting then I would agree with you 100%, I was just thinking about rng with both scopes and barrels and mag perks and thinking that it would be a nightmare of trying to get the things that would be good for each gun. I hope in the future we have more customization added in crafting, maybe the option to choose either a scope or barrel, or even both, any choice of which would satisfy everyone’s wants for their guns

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  • Exactly. We shall see. All we can do not is grind as many red ringed weapons until then.

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  • Facts.

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  • Edited by hate n payne: 3/15/2022 7:04:42 PM
    It is sad when players cannot see the max potential of their load outs or playstyles due to this.

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