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originally posted in: Trials freelance should be permanent
3/14/2022 2:05:55 PM
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Top 1% dont care about flawless pool. After all they are the reason flawless pool can be hard XD. Also a competitive game mode shouldnt catter to below average players to make it easier x) But i guess thats too much common sense.
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  • remember when Destiny players weren't so entitled and if they didn't have the chops to go flawless, even with a carry, they knew well enough to stay away. Now, every one wants to jump in the ring with Tyson because they think they can box.

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  • Those players are still there. They are the players not coming here just to cry non stop x)

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  • No cap. Also, if you look up the stats of anyone who wants permanent Freelance, or wants to stop going against stacks all have a cumulative average of like 0.6 k/d. Even I know to stay away without my teams helping me

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  • Spoken like a true invisible crouching hand holder. In your own words you admit you are afraid to play PvP without a babysitter. Your K/D does not prove you have skill and only playing in a stack is cowardice hunter behavior. I prefer my low K/D over playing like a puss any day.

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  • really now? Funny, I'm a warlock main - and playing with a team is the whole point. If I am more successful with one, than without one, then why I would not play without a team? Seems rather obvious. But then again, ignorance is bliss. So, I'll take my "flawless carries" over being whatever you are and spending more time complaining about your lack of skills, than actually doing something about it

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  • Yep. Below average players tends to yell more than others because obviously the game have to change for them. Definitely not them who need to improve

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  • You act like this game is hard 😂

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  • What happened with trials before freelance? Oh yeah I forgot it was killed due to low player populations...

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  • Yep and the pvp players cried when they keep playing each other.

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  • There should be freelance and mocking people playing skills isn’t a good argument🤷 no argument I have read so far gives a valid reason to why there shouldn’t be freelance.

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  • 1) Trials is not a casual game mode 2) It was designed for teams that are well above average 3) Something as competitive as Trials was designed to be TEAM based in a SOCIAL game that requires constant communication to be successful. 4) Even though Freelance is easy mode in some instances, particularly on Friday's, I think it has no place in a competitive mode - leave that for IB

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  • 1- Sure 2- No, it was not. 3 - I am sure you are using competetive as in players go against each other rather than actually meaning competetive. If it was actually competetive PvP mode, Bungie would have made e-sports with Destiny already (which they tried and failed with D2Y1) 4 - Why not? People cannot compete solo? Where is this idea of solo cannot compete comes from?

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  • 2) if it wasn't meant for teams, then why do teams do better. And why don't they have Trials 1v1's? It's team based - ask any Trials player 3) When I say "competitive" I mean it's not a normal game mode with minimal rewards. Other than those who are sweats for the sake of being sweats, the end goal is the weapons, armor, and recently, the adepts; and if you're really a grind master, the ghost shell, ship, and sparrow. Bungie won't make it an e-sport because they don't focus on PvP - as you can see, they spend more resources and dev ideas on PvE since somewhere like 80% of the player base is PvE, and attempting to do so would be like Blizzard finding a way to turn WoW into an esport 4) Let me phrase it this way: while I believe baptism under fire is the best way to get better at anyone thing, attempting to do so in Trials is not the best way to go about it. Sure, if you're a 4.0 k/d and can carry a team, why not, solo the heck out of it. But complaining about going against stacks which a large portion of those that go to the lighthouse are while running solo and having no communication, coordination, or even chemistry should be the red flag to get one's own team.

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  • 2 - an Ikea furniture is also designed in flatpacks and easier installations so single person can get it done but that doesnt mean a team cannot do it faster with less effort. I wont even explain why any game does not do 1v1 :) 3- Let me correct you there, it is not they wont make it. Because they have tried and said themselves in D2Y1 and failed miserably (also due to other reasons as well). It is also wrong to state that "because the player base is 80% PvE ..." some might argue that PvP crowd has been pushed out by Bungie with zero effort on that front but Bungie keeps promising though. 4- This is just simple elitist stuff. Beacuse if you dont think Destiny is not also a PvP game then why bother to even worry about if there is a freelance? You need to be consistent, you cannot claim this is PvE game then disagree anything that makes PvP more accessible to solo crowd.

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  • If it’s not for casuals than why is there still match making? If you want to say it’s competitive than why is destiny’s only “competitive” game type survival have freelance? You say it’s team base so is every esports game out there yet you don’t vs team stacks. Trials is nothing more than a viewership for bungie. Just people who want their easy trial wins with their 3 stacks vsing 3 randoms is all I hear 🤷

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  • Edited by IcyHotTodoroki40: 3/15/2022 12:19:55 AM
    Because all the whiners and cry babies kept complaining how Trials was catering to the top 2-5% of PvP players, or those who play with the top 2-5%. All these F2P or casuals felt entitled to weapons that take skill and coordination bombarded the forums with unnecessary b*tching, so Bungie relented and took out the fireteam requirement. Now those same people with their life time 0.2 k/d's are moaning about not being able to hit Flawless because they are matched with other glue sniffers with 0.2 k/ds going up against 1.5 - 3.0 k/d players. That's how Trials is - it's a sweat fest. That's why I always say, baptism under fire is the best way to learn - if you can't stand the heat, then stay out of Trials. Trials was also one of the most requested modes to return since they got rid of Trials of the Nine. Provides a great choice of weapons, armor, and glow for those who like to flex their accomplishments. Again, and I say this as a below average player that is only successful at team shooting, if people don't have a team to help them go flawless, they should really stick to casual PvP modes. Otherwise, they're just fodder for easy wins

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  • Edited by RabbitEars: 3/15/2022 12:20:55 AM
    Trials is easy af with a 3 stack. Harder solo soooo I’m still waiting on a valid point. Sounds like you just like getting carried by your teammates and don’t want freelance because you’d have to rely on random people carrying you 🤷

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  • Of course it's easier with a 3 stack. So many subpar players hopping in thinking they are entitled to going Flawless makes it easy for even someone like me. Yes, it's harder solo - but people wanted it, and now people are complaining that it's too hard. That's my problem with the casual community. You want a valid point? Anyone that's below a 0.9 k/d without a team that can help them has no business in Trials. About your comment about Survival - that's why they changed the name. It was no longer competitive. Real comp was harder than Trials IMO and again, the casual subpar players cried and whined until Bungie relented. This is why casuals should not be allowed to play if they remain casual.

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  • " KWTD, HAVE GALAHJORN OR KICKED " remember those days? thats exactly what tou sound like. if you want no freelance and no matchmaking , i hope you enjoy sweating every game and the reemergence of cheaters. you deserve it ^_^

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  • As a competitive player, freelance should be an option for solo players. Not every “end game” activity should revolve around teams. If you want the best gear bungie should just put it in raids to make it team base. But putting a find a group for pvp is stupid. It’s just full of elitists who think they know how a pvp game should be ran with zero competitive experience. So get gud and stop relying on your 3 stack for your flawless maybe you’d see peoples point. Or you just like being carried by teammates and don’t see it 🤷

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  • Edited by Reqioz: 3/15/2022 2:23:50 AM
    “get good and stop relying on your 3 stack” bro you get good and find some friends to play with. You sound like a -blam!-

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  • Damn, another generic answer. This community is -blam!-. No wonder destiny is dying

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  • Maybe it’s generic cause it’s the best answer to give you.

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  • it’s a very shitty one at best 🤷 shouldn’t have to rely on stacks for pvp content. It’s the dumbest concept in any pvp game type. No other pvp game out there forces you to vs team stacks you for 50 straight games. It’s very rare. But hey enjoy this -blam!- pvp game. Nothings ever getting better if you guys are in charge 🤷

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  • Bro it’s been this way since the beginning of the game. Go ahead and do the switch aroo and change it after 8 years. Have fun losing because you had some npc match on your team instead of finding some people to run with. Might as well put the trials loot behind comp and play it that way. You must be new here

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