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2/5/2015 11:59:47 AM
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My opinion about 31's

Honestly, I have nothing against them, they are perfectly ok in CE HM. Just because somebody doesn't have the time, or is unlucky with armor and shards, doesn't mean that they should have a restriction over their head on what they can and can't do. The other thing, if you kick somebody for being 31 every time, how the hell do you actually expect them to reach 32? They just want help with the bridge and Abyss Im sure. Run them through that, and if they do good in that, let them stay.
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  • [b]The other thing, if you kick somebody for being 31 every time, how the hell do you actually expect them to reach 32?[/b] By doing Normal Mode Crota. Obviously.

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    • If the 31 dont have at least 6 exotics they havnt played much

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      • Depends on the player if he or she would listen? Weapons are fully upgraded and has a mic to communicates with the team.

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      • You sir, are the coolest 32 I've ever even heard of.

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      • Well, if you have a 31 with upgraded weapons that are good enough to make them somewhat relevant (doesn't have to be a g-horn or an ice breaker per say) but if they got the gear and they are just generally good players who are good at just avoiding death...then you ought to consider them. [spoiler]by "avoiding death" I mean that they are good gamers and have enough skill to avoid getting killed repeatedly. As an example, I have one friend who is terrible at games, he is super lucky and always gets full raid gear early on, but he dies soooooooo damn much, so much that I often tell my other friends we are better off with a 31 who can actually play and has decent skill. [/spoiler]

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      • [quote]f you kick somebody for being 31 every time, how the hell do you actually expect them to reach 32?[/quote] Never go full potato

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      • At Crota 31s don't matter. There's only a few things to kill so the damage output doesn't matter and so long as you've got a blessing of light bubble everyone should be safe after the glass drops. Id rather a 31 with a maxed HoC or Ghorn over some shit talking 32 who thinks they're better than everyone else.

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      • I beat it yesterday with 2 31s I think

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        • 작성자: jsteelfex 2/5/2015 9:27:24 PM
          "If you kick somebody for being 31 every time, how the hell do you actually expect them to reach 32?" Is this an actual question? I would expect them to do normal mode, in which you can get the shards and armor pieces required to hit level 32, which is what I did for my characters. I've done a hard mode with two 31's, and that's the most I will take in a group. The group as a whole loses too much firepower because 31's have higher damage penalties put on them (which means that they also die faster). If it's a good player with experience using an alt, then I would be okay with that. However, if its a guy who has only done normal mode a few times that wants to leach for gear while he sits in the back, then I'm probably going to pass.

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          • Man where were you last night? We had me (32) and 3 other 32s and two 31s. We made it to Crota in 30 minutes and two of the 32s bailed because they didn't think we could handle two 31s. It pissed me off since the 31s held their own and carried the two 32 who failed through most of the raid. Two weeks ago it was 5 32s and my best friend as a 31. My best friend is the best player I've played with in this game. He led our entire team in kills and had the fewest deaths by a long shot. We get to Crota and he gets booted. I got mad and left. We found another group and killed Crota. The next time they asked to help I joined and left mid fight. -blam!- em.

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          • I did hard mode on both my 32's and only had a 31 Hunter left. We still got through it a third time without a single wipe.

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          • I have beat this with a 31 sword...another time with a 30 and 2 31s....31 or higher is fine in hard raid if you have a good team and play strategy right....if the team your joining won't take 31 a then they are probably not good enough to beat it

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          • 작성자: Gulf Coast Girl 2/5/2015 7:51:03 PM
            [quote]The other thing, if you kick somebody for being 31 every time, how the hell do you actually expect them to reach 32?[/quote] Same way I got to 32... running their 31 on Normal Mode... you get all the raid gear on normal mode. 31s are 2 levels lower ... not just 1 and that's 60% less damage out put. Even 32s are under-leveled so it's harder to carry 31s if you are running legit. I guess if you are cheaters and not doing the fights (bridge cheaters, etc.) then probably not a big deal. It's harder doing legit runs with people 2 levels lower. I have 2 32s (a hunter and a warlock)... I run them on Hard Mode. (I got all their gear on normal mode) I also have a 31 Titan... I only run that on Normal until I get it to 32 (currently only have 1 piece of armor). I don't expect others to have to carry extra work just so I can run it on hard mode. Doesn't matter how good you think you are... at 31 in hard mode, you are putting out WAY less damage and taking in WAY more damage. It's just how it is, if you want to blame someone... blame Bungie for making the enemies level 33 so the maxed players are underleveled.

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            • I agree, I have a 32 Hunter and a 32 Titan and ran Crota HM a few times with other 31's in my completed attempts. My Warlock is 31, yesterday I asked a group from the forums to let me join wit my Warlock as soon as I joined they booted me without saying anything. I completed HM last week with my Warlock on 31. All I need is the freaking raid boots! I'm tired of this 32 only bullshit and before anyone says I was carried we had 3 31's in the lobby all had a maxed Gally which made it possible last week. Hell I even received the Crux last week. So don't tell me 31's can not do it. Hell as long as you have a good swordbearer I will even say it can be done with 5 31's and a 32.

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              • I've beat it with 3 31's. There's no reason to kick then at all.

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              • You can reach level 32 without ever playing hard.

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                • The way I see it if you join my game and you ain't lvl 35 you getting kicked.

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                  • [quote]Just because somebody doesn't have the time, or is unlucky with armor and shards, doesn't mean that they should have a restriction over their head on what they can and can't do.[/quote] Actually, that's EXACTLY what it means. I'm not trying to be an asshole, it's just the nature of the game. You play the game and get rewarded. I'm tired of 31's bitching about not being able to do what 32's can do. It's really no one's fault but you're own.

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                    • 31s are perfectly fine to HM CE. I'm only 31 and I do very well imo. gotta say that maxed gally is a big enough reason to keep me, and it helps i have revive as well.

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                    • I expect them to get to rank 4 with eiris mourn. And to run normal until they get on my level. Literally.

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                    • They need to start making it easier to get radiant shards the same way they did with ascendant shards. Crota has been out for how long now and you still don't get radiant shards from faults or public events or anything but the Crota raid. It's stupid, 32s are coveted like some god or something and I feel bad for the people who literally live on this game and believe others should be on the same level as them. Seriously though, good for you bro, let 31s run with you, I do too when I'm on my 32 Titan, cause i remember being a 31. I remember being a 26 an no one would let me do a normal vault with them! So screw all the douches.

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                    • 작성자: Guardian0346 2/5/2015 5:47:24 PM
                      The solution is to play on norm until u hit 32. Its pretty easy to hit 32 on norm.i dont understand why people want to rush it.glowhoo and hm weapons will still be there when your 32 gaurdians

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                      • Good on ya bro! *thumbs up*

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                      • Nothing wrong with 31 on normal that's how you become 32 and your right for hard mode there are plenty of groups that don't mind if a 31 goes in but I find it kind of lazy for people I had to do normal mode before hard why not everyone else I have only one a few friends that I would bring a 31 in hard because I know they have a very strong skill level but it's just why aren't you 32 by now and if your not its on doesn't mean anything bad just go play normal I will gladly help with that.

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                        • I take 2 31's on crota cp. you can do the rest with 31's

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