I have to agree .. I never call for nerfs or buffs but the shoulder charge is silly ; it's a one hit kill that can effectively be use over and over with little skill required ... The amount of times I've had a player down to a tiny amount of heathy and he's just ran at me and spammed the trigger is ridiculous... either lower the damage or place a cool down period on it

Unless you've deleted a titan already, you've never even played one with shoulder charge. Use it, then write about it. Dude...I've been killed mid-shoulder charge execution.

The shoulder charge does have a cool down...that is what the sprint is for, and you can't always sprint directly after using shoulder charge...

LMAO I love hearing the Titans try to defend this haha "It's a hard move to pull off, it's not easy bla bla bla" lol the fact is you're just terrible at it or failing as a Titan. It's crazy easy, practice and you'll see! I jump on my brothers Titan all the time and wreck with shoulder charge only! It's soooo easy when 80% of the maps are small rooms with tones of LOS! And I'm soooo sick of people calling it a melee lol GUYs! This shit doesn't consume stormfist lol stop comparing it to knives and warlock punch. This move is basically a Mario Gold star, you run around super fast and if you wana take someone's life just boost forward 6 feet and auto kill anything remotely touching you lol Warlocks don't have anything built into their kit that gives an advantage for merely running lmao. You wana balance shit you'd have to give other classes without built in kits something equally comparable. Simple. And I'm tired of the ultimate fix being "us a shotgun" lmao. Yes! Everyone in this game, exclude all other special weapons because Titans can end you in a heart if you don't have this little equalizer. Look.. First off, if someone is blinking on my radar for an incoming energy, there is zero notification that it's gana be a melee titan.. No -blam!-ing Titan is gana run at you in wide open space and go for a Titan charge. They weave threw the high traffic small tunnels rooms and corridors. They come in fast so it doesn't leave much time to run, jump, guess or react. Game delay if gana forever work against you. And if you don't have a shotgun you've got very little options. In a normal random pug, this move is a beast, it's free, 100% kill and it has no cool down. And to anyone saying running is a cool down you're a -blam!-ing idiot.. Like seriously.. You're straight retarded. Is the move overpowered, ofcourse. But so is half the crap in a hunters kit. Is it fair? Nahhh. Will you still play? Ofcourse you willll :) cause they got you by the balls and they're too lazy to tend to your needs and rub one out for you.

Don't let titans run at you. Be careful by corners.

[quote]Make shoulder charge a cool down [/quote] No. It doesn't need it. If you are getting close enough for a titan to shoulder charge you, then you need the review your strat. Sincerely, Someone who runs a hunter

Honestly all that needs to happen is reduce the speed and/or range on the shoulder charge, it's like 10m ohko And you shouldn't be able to charge it in the air

It's called using a shotgun to the face ONE SHOT ALWAYS WORKS or a fusion rifle, to be honest if you see a titan running toward you it's like ok we know what you're gonna do. The only time this doesn't work is round corners other than that if you can't take down a titan running toward you and not shooting giving a clear sign what hes about to pull then I'm afraid Crucible is not for you So let's take a look at melee based abilities then Hunters: You only mentioned throwing knives i personally am terrible at aiming them but a headshot with one causes well over 150 damage and if you have the burning effect even more also the bladedancer's Blinkstrike has a long range and is a free instant kill from behind healing you too which also works with arc blade of course downside being it has a cooldown doesn't mean it's not formidable still. Warlock: I'm not sure why on earth you think warlock can't compare when they have a frigging PROJECTILE MELEE which they reduce the cooldown of grenades plus healing with the perk or in sunsinger where being hit with scorch gives you a free SHIELD plus burning damage also during radiance a scorch kills anything in 1 hit. Titan: Storm first pretty generic extra damage, there's a perk that actives health regen for it storm first and shoulder charge if target is killed, there's also an aoe damage effect I'm personally unsure if this hits twice on someone but i doubt it and then we come to shoulder charge, shoulder charge takes about 4 seconds or more of running to activate during this if you stop, you have to start over which means using anything abilties or doing anything during this time means you cannot use it. Also i cannot express how many times i run toward people and get an easy shotgun to the face why? because it takes nearly 2 ticks for the damage to actually register try it yourself. I won't even bother to talk about the defender's melee abilties because they're mainly support based only melee ability worth a damn in crucible is unbreakable giving you slow regenning shield and maybe the first one as it increases reload speed. Not saying it isn't powerful but what i am saying it's easily counterable and the other 2 classes have their own op melee abilities you shouldn't discriminate one because you die often to it. change your tactics and believe me it isn't difficult to beat.

Your titan is a level 2... Come back and say this crap about the titan shoulder charge when you actually know something about titans.

From Destiny tracker: Strikers are the worst subclass in crucible with an overall sub 1 k/d. The highest was Gunslingers at 1.1 ARs get the most kills. Hunters are the most over represented in the top 10000 and it is worse at the top. Of the top 100 pvpers, 43 are hunters, 29 are warlocks, and 28 are titans. SC is not your problem. It is Gunslingers with ARs. Nerf dat shit. /thread

Yep. Having an infinite OHK is a bad idea. Yes, you have to rush. Yes,a shotgun CAN counter it. But used by a good player, you don't have a chance of reacting. (I run into a wall I know an enemy will come around, and by the time they do, the thing locks on as soon as I press it. They literally can't react. It's so cheap, but hey, Titans got the short side of the stick in PvP)

Shoulder charge isn't a melee, it's a perk on the far right skill tree. So comparing it to the other class melees is dumb and irrelevant. The titans actual melee is storm fist (or disintegrate depending on which subclass) and that has a cool down. I'm cool with it getting a cool down, as long as it becomes an actual melee option (in the storm fist tree) and no longer requires a sprint, so i can just hit the bumper and perform a shoulder charge. If that becomes the case, then bungie can replace the the optional shoulder charge perk (in its current spot) with something else.