Most people don't think the last word is overpowered. These people do not know how to use the weapon properly, but once you do it is literally the most overpowered thing in this game. How do you learn to use it properly? Does it take time to learn? Nope! Just use aggressive ballistics and perfect balance. Now fire from the hip and ONLY from the hip. A shot to the body will do 68 damage. That means 3 shots to the body is a kill. No other handcannon in the game except for Thorn can kill in 3 shots to the body and do so as fast as TLW, because no other hand cannon in the game fires faster or more accurately from the hip than the last word. A shot to the head from the hip will do 111 damage. If you get two headshots, that's a two shot kill. Since you're never aiming in, your radar is always up, and because hand cannons are very accurate from the air you can jump around while still accurately killing people in 3 shots to the freaking body.
Go on destinytracker, look at the top players in true skill, then look at what gun they're using; usually last word or Thorn. I was hoping I wouldn't have to make this post, because A) the less people that know about this ridiculous gun the better for crucible. B) I doubt anyone from bungie will notice this post. Please fix your game by nerfing this gun because it's literally the easiest gun in the game and takes all skill out of a fight that is TLW vs TLW. There is no incentive to even go for headshots with this stupid gun. In fact that's the biggest problem, the unique passive says it only gets bonus precision damage from the hip, but it actually gets bonus damage to non-precision shots as well, which sounds like a bug to me.
As a final note, I have a very high k/d, I'm #12 in Skirmish on xbox one, and as a player who actually understands this game's pvp, The Last Word is the most overpowered thing in the game by FAR. Also, if you ever actually do get around to nerfing it, go ahead and nerf the Thorn and Pocket Infinity, because they're right up there on the list of weapons that will be abused. Lets get back to winning gun fights because you hit more headshots than the other guy.
edit: To everyone saying "why not nerf everything omg stop crying":
I know that when the gun gets nerfed another gun will be the best, obviously. Problem is that you don't go for headshots with this gun, you don't even aim in. Hipfire to the body is not a skillful way to win gunfights. I'd rather a gun that requires aim and headshots be the best, that way the better player will consistently win.
edit 2: Keep the discussion somewhat respectful please :p, and if you agree with me please upvote this so that hopefully Bungie will actually see this post. I'm going to sleep now.
edit 3 (last one lol): I don't mean to sound like I'm bragging when I mention my stats, I just want people to know that obviously as someone who is good at the game I know what I'm talking about. Also, I didn't suffer some horrible loss in crucible recently, this post is just a wake up call to Bungie, because they apparently have no idea TLW is broken right now and neither do most people playing the game.
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2 답변Why does everyone constantly want weapons nerfed? As an owner of The Last Word I will agree that it is very good but it didn't turn me into some kind of PVP god because I have it. Like any other weapon it has it's good and bad qualities. The best quality IMO is that it is the best defense for the shotgun charging type players who just run around recklessly trying to shotty people. It is my go to in matches when the other team is using that tactic. For games when I am getting into longer range battles I prefer Thorn or Red Death
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6 답변I have enjoyed my time trying out PVP, but it seems like all the PVP people do is whine about every -blam!-ing gun. Like seriously Bungie should give you a crucible mode where you throw rocks at each other and charge your supers off tears.
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6 답변If my pistol gets nerfed im comeing to your house and snapping your disc and stomping you console guns are fine HOW THEY ARE i use tlw when i rarely play crucible it is decent dont nerf my -blam!-ing gun change YOUR startegy and aproach run out of my range zone and snipe ive killed plenty of tlw users if you dont like being killed by it in pvp than listen to this really simple DONT PLAY PVP simple as that i get blink ahot gunned thorned shoulder charged all the time ive never said a weapon needs to be nerfed because they earned the kill they pulled the trigger before i did they jad a better aproach and better instincts it is the player not the gun
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2 답변How about we just replace all weapons in the game with nerf guns that have one bullet and the bullet does negative infinity worth of damage? Would you be happy then?
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4 답변Timur lash can 2 or 3 hit if you roll the right perks, and EVEN if you don't the gun impact it's higher than TLW and can still 3 hit you
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1 답변Yet another post with someone speaking whinese. Why do people constantly want to get things nerfed. Im not great at crucible i get killed alot but i dont want any of the weapons nerfed they all have their strengths and weaknesses range is a weakness for tlw. Stop crying and just play the game
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1 답변Shut.up. TLW is hella good, but only if you're skilled. Kind of like red death. All these scrubs running around with it now and you can kill them with husk of the pit. There are people running around with TLW in pretty much every game I play. It's not one of the weapons that keeps me from winning. I don't even move mine between characters because the results are pretty much the same whether I use TLW, Red hand, or three little words. No need to "address" it.
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1 답변So let's nerf and buff every weapon in the crucible so every type of gun acts the same. A white gun and an exotic will be exactly the same three shots with any hand cannon will do you in, all the perks are gone and they all have the same rate of fire so TLW and Thorn have the same rate of fire and for autos the Suros and the gallilad both will be exactly the same...I'm sure everyone in the crucible will be stoked...just leave PVE alone
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Honestly, Handcannons in general are extremely good right now (Been using HCs since September/October). Even with their long range game nerfed a little, Hawkmoon and Thorn are still great. TLW was made to be close quarters dominant, but with things like Felwinter's lie running around, it has a harder time. Anymore than two people will give you a hard time, where as Thorn and Hawkmoon can take three (Hawkmoon varies depending on how the lucky bullets work out). I do believe you are credible by your standings, but there are things that can compete with it and reliably kill TLW users. Sorry for the long post too
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I don't get all this hate in pvp on this game I pvp on my Titan and warlock using all kinds of guns and have no issues at all I kill most people why I don't have a stupid kd I get by fine I enjoy the challenge of taking on people with the so called op guns
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작성자: VorticalBox 3/16/2015 10:31:01 PMActually I have a blue hand cannon with explosive rounds that kills in 3 body shots. Explosive rounds do double damage or precision + body shot. So the only thing that sets last word apart is it's fire rate.
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Lmao! The last word is hardly op! I constantly get killed in one blast from auto rifle range with fusion rifles. Those are the only guns that need a nerf, trust me. But everyone keeps complaining about shotguns and hand cannons? GTFOH!
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TLW is a beast but it has a small clip and slow reload. I still think the vex is better in most situations. I have gotten 4 or 5 kills with the vex before without reloading. TLW kills only slightly faster and you definitely need to reload unless you are the best shot in the world. Anything more than mid range and Thorn users will sit back and snipe you. I think it fits in well with other OP exotics. Supposed to be the counterpart to Thorn and they are pretty much on the same level. Red Death can also be considered betted on crown control situations like clash and control.